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Tell me more about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=0.32,2.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e I was part of a writers group. I've always been a writer, and I was part of a writers group for thirty years. In, Southern California. Even when I moved to Northern California, I stayed part of the group through Zoom. And they kept encouraging me because I never submitted anything or rarely submitted anything for publication. I just enjoyed the writing part, and they finally convinced me that I should make a book that was a collection of some of the things I'd written over thirty years. So I did. So just a year ago, in March, I published a book that I gave you the title, and the subtitle is, memories and thoughts of an octogenarian. And it has a lot of stories about growing up in Waterloo and about my childhood and other things as well and a little bit of poetry. And, as an advertisement, I will tell you it's available on Amazon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=4.08,59.07"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I guess we'll have to buy a copy. Now, we've got an interview. It's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=59.69,63.255"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e actually on sale right now. So you better hurry up while it's on sale. Yeah. But as I said, Did I did you get the part about my, story about my brother and I doing the dishes together? No. Okay. Well, one of the stories in the book is about how my brother, Eddie, who was five years older. And I, while he was still living at home in high school before he went away to college, how we did the dishes every night. And, We would pick a Broadway show that we both loved, like the pajama game, which was popular at that time. And we get all the dishes into the kitchen and close the kitchen door. My mother and father would be in the living room. Probably Yeah. Listening to the radio. I don't think we have television yet. And my brother and I would spend an hour just washing and drying and putting away these dishes because we would work our way through the whole Broadway Show, singing the songs and dancing around the kitchen, and it was just a a nightly ritual that we both loved. And I feel sorry for the kids today who seem to wanna fight about whose turn is it to clear the table or whose turn to load the dishwasher, you know, and And I think they don't know what they're missing. We had such fun doing the dishes when we were growing up. So that's one of the stories in my book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=63.255,151.535"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, growing up in in Waterloo, can you tell me some of the details about Some other details about your your early family life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=153.62,163.005"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e About my family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=164.665,165.645"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Your your brother and you did the dishes, did have any other specific family traditions, celebrations, vacation spots things that you did?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=166.345,177.1"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we certainly celebrated all the Jewish holidays. And very few of my friends were Jewish because there weren't that many Jewish kids my age. But I did have some Jewish friends, but the majority of my friends were non Jewish. And I actually loved that. I loved the fact that We were all diverse, and I didn't know that word in those days, but we were diverse and compatible, and we loved each other. I used to go to methodist youth fellowship with my girlfriend, Sally Paige, and she'd come to United Synagogue youth meetings with me because she and my cousin Gary were dating. I went to Catholic Mass. I went to Presbyterian Services. My friends always felt sorry for me at Christmas time that I didn't have a Christmas tree so they don't invite me over to help. Decorate their trees. I probably decorated more Christmas trees than they did. We would have them over to our house for latkes and applesauce, and introduce them to Jewish traditions. It was a a wonderful way to grow up. And as an adult, and not even until I was an adult. It actually dawned on me when I was in college. And a lot of my college friends were from the big cities. They were from Chicago or Minneapolis or Des Moines. And their whole group of friends growing up were all Jewish. Because I was in a Jewish shorty. And, I felt sorry for them because they didn't have this multicultural experience that I had growing up that I just loved and valued enormously. And to this day, I think was one of the nicest things that could have happened to me. But I did have Jewish friends, one of my best friends, an oldest friends, and we're still friends. Is Zena Greenstein, Bernstein, who lives in Sioux City. And Zena's, husband just died this past year, but she and I have always stayed in touch. And, she's probably my oldest living friend or one of my oldest living friends. Her father was a big marker in the synagogue. You know, he always sat in the front row by the East mall and Talit and his, Yamika. Well, in those days, it was called a Thomas and a Yamika. And instead of a Talit and a Kipa, So those things have changed dramatically since the state of Israel was born. The synagogue was, basically conservative because we had this small group of ultra orthodox like mister Greenstein, Zena's father. Who were still there and didn't want to make big changes. And then we have the younger, members of the congregation who really wanted to be reformed but that was never gonna fly. So we were a conservative synagogue. And the old synagogue on Fifth Street on the west side I only remember is this Ramshackle old building. When you walked in the front door, you had to go either up a few steps to the sanctuary or down a few steps to the social hall. I remember the front of the building was dirt. I mean, the the parkway had no grass in it. It was dirt. I remember we used to play marbles in the dirt. I remember it as being dingy. That may not be fair, but that's my memory of it. And noisy. I think that there was no carpeting upstairs. So every time a pew got moved or a chair moved, there was always a lot of noise. And I remember watching people move around a lot during the service. And chatting with people. I mean, the service is going on and people are walking around and they're talking to people and they're chatting and they're having conversations and I never really understood that. And, I remember asking my father at one point. I was sitting or standing next to him during one of the services And, the rabbi or the canter who frequently was, mister Greenstein, he did the Cantorial services sometimes. They would be dovining, and then they would say something and my father would join in. And then they'd go on and he'd join in again. I remember saying to him one day. How do you know when to join in? You're not even on the same page in the same book. And he said, you just know. He says you just learned from being here. I said, okay. They didn't offer hebrew school to girls in those days, let alone about it. My goodness. But both my brothers were Barmitzford. And I did go to Hebrew School one summer. And all I learned basically was how to recognize and pronounce each of the letters of the alphabet. I didn't really learn how to read, certainly not how to understand. But it was enough that I could follow the services, the Hebrew services because I recognized the letters of the alphabet and how they sounded so I could pick out words. That was the extent of my Hebrew education. I remember moving to the new synagogue, the one that just recently had to be sold. And, I was confirmed there. I taught Sunday school there. I was married in that synagogue. And it had a very special place in my heart. And my one of my grandsons from Southern California actually went to school at the University of Iowa over a two year period a few years ago. And a friend of his through Hillel, found out that he was from Waterloo and he'd never been there. And so the friend drove my grandson to Waterloo. They found the synagogue. They drove by the house I grew up in. They found the synagogue. They went in My grandson actually saw my confirmation picture, the picture of my confirmation class on the wall. So that was kind of exciting. I was pleased by that. What else? I the house we moved to from The apartment above the grocery store. When I was five years old, my parents bought a house on the west side on Kingsley Avenue. Kingsley is a street. It's only six blocks long, I think. And it was in the Kingsley Elementary School District. And I remember walking to school, come rain or shine or snow or sleet. The only time that we had school canceled was if the streets were icy, but, cold and ice and snow did not stop school. I remember we were not allowed to wear long pants, except snow pants. I remember vividly the smell of woolen mittens drying out in the cloakroom during the day. That smell of wet wool. I've I've always Remember that fragrance or odor, whichever you wanna call it, depending on your point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=177.305,619.545"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e They're musty. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=619.845,621.065"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. It's a very distinctive smell. I spent a lot of time at Burns Park in the summertime at the swimming pool. I went ice skating at the park a couple of times in the winter, but no more than a few times because I didn't really like being that cold, and it was an outdoor skating. Right? My, girlfriends, the ones I mentioned before with whom I went to various Christian services, were part of a group called Apotlik. And I remember one of the girls' mothers. It was her idea. And she called the mothers of eight of us and arranged for the eight of us to form what we call the potluck. And we would get together. I think it was once every other week. I'm not a hundred percent sure of that. It might have been more often or less often. But we would get together for dinner at the host home, and that mother would fix the main course, and the rest of us would bring all the side dishes. And this started when we were in elementary school, and we would then do something. You know, the parents would have to drive. We'd go to a a local baseball game. You know, we had a a minor league baseball team in Waterloo. So we go to the baseball game. We'd go to the movies. We'd go to, I, roller skating rink. We'd go bowling. And we did something different each time, or we would go to an event at school. And some of the other girls from our elementary school from Kingsley heard about our pop and their mothers got together and they formed a second potluck. And so then the two potlucks, we would eat separately in the homes because nobody wanted to make a meal for teen girls. And then we would meet afterwards, and we would join. So we became a group of sixteen girls who were very close and, really enjoyed each other. Very aware of each other's, boyfriend obligations as we were growing up. We never stepped on each other's toes. It was a wonderful group of girls. And then when we got to junior high school, and we started meeting and making friends girls who were coming from other elementary schools, they also began to form potluck. So in the end, we have probably over thirty girls. In this huge group of friendship, from all over the west side of, Waterloo. And that that was just wonderful. It was really a very exciting and wonderful time. What else would you like to know about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=621.6,780.315"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e You talked about, having some of your friends come to your house for some of some Jewish holidays. Did they come to Saters? Have them there over Hanukkah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=782.12,794.575"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e They would come at Hanukkah time and watch me light the Hanukkah candles. They envy the fact that I gotta open a present every night for eight nights, whereas they had to do it all in either Christmas Eve or Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. They thought it was pretty cool that we had eight days of Monica. Kingnesley School had an amazing principal. Her name was missus Swanson. It's amazing that I still remember her very well. She was extremely aware of the minority number of Jewish kids who were in her school, but that we existed. And she would call the parents and ask permission to have Christmas pageants. And did we want our children to participate or not? We all did accept my brother Eddie. He did not wanna purchase paid in Jewish in non Jewish traditions and holidays, and she was perfectly fine with that. And so what she did is she had him go around to all the classrooms whenever there was a Jewish holiday and explain the holiday to the classes. She was just an amazing woman and a wonderful school principal. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=795.515,871.22"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e You set him up to be a teacher. Didn't she? Pardon me? She set him up to be the teacher, the rabbi. Didn't she? Yes. She did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=871.34,878.955"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e So I thought I I guess at the time, I didn't realize how significant that was and how truly marvelous that was. But as I got older, and of course as I had children and sent them to school and everything. I realized what a real groundbreaking idea that was that she did and how Much it was appreciated by our parents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=881.495,905.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I take it that your family did not keep strict kosher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=906.58,911.32"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e We did not. Zena's family did. Zena's house was a Kosher house and, but she did not keep Kosher outside of the house. But my home was not a kosher home. It was very difficult to be a kosher in those days. I believe that's happened again. I believe that I read recently from one of my book club friends in Waterloo that, you can no longer buy, passover product. That everybody's having to go to Minneapolis and Des Moines in Chicago, which is NCita Rapids, which is the way it was when I was growing up, there was nothing kosher in Waterloo. And so being kosher was extremely difficult and expensive. And very few families The only one I am know of for sure was Zena's family that kept kosher. There may have been others that I didn't know about, but her family was a Kosher family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=911.815,965.0"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e That made it a little bit easier for the potlucks. Pardon me? Have made it a bit easier for the potluck. Yeah. Well, then I'd have to work through around that. Etsy, you say you went to Hebrew School just for a very short period of time, but your brothers went to Hebrew School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=969.235,989.665"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. They went two nights a week for, I don't know, how many years prior to their bar mitzvahs, maybe a year or two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=990.44,997.82"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you envy them, or were you grateful you didn't have to go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=998.535,1002.395"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think I thought about it one way or another, to be honest with you. And I don't remember why I did end up going that one summer. If it was my idea or if my brother encouraged me, I honestly don't remember. I just know I went for one summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1003.975,1018.425"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And you would have stopped in an elementary school at that time? Pardon me? You were still in elementary school at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1022.725,1031.099"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably. Probably. Because my summers were pretty full ones, I guess, a junior high. We called it junior high. He had not middle school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1032.119,1040.795"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Same with me growing up. Steve, how did your family celebrate some of the American holiday?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1042.454,1050.61"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Some of the what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1052.025,1053.005"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e American holidays. Thanksgiving. Very American July.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1053.465,1057.645"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e We did, like everybody else did. We had picnics. We had celebrations. My My father's brother Phil married a non Jewish woman in Waterloo, which is a very gutsy thing to do in those days. And so we would go to their home for Easter Sunday. We would go to their family fourth of July celebrations and picnics. We would also have our own, but not for Easter Sunday, of course. But you know, my parents have this very, I guess, pragmatic idea of being Jewish in America. And we kids colored easter eggs. We didn't celebrate Easter, but we colored easter eggs. We hung stockings at the fireplace at Christmas time because my parents told us that Santa Claus didn't care that we weren't Santa Claws was still gonna leave us something if we get nuts and and candy and stuff like that. Nothing significant. But they didn't want us to feel left out of the mainstream, but we knew very definitely that we were Jewish. It was a kind of very nice pragmatic compromise that, worked in our house. I don't know how the others did. Or if they did any of that, but that's what my parents did, and I loved it. And we all loved it. Music was a big part of our lives. My father was a huge opera buff. He loved the opera. And even though he owned a neighborhood grocery store. On Saturday afternoons, he would always come home during the broadcasting of the Metropolitan opera. And that was his his time. He would lie down on the couch in the den which was we called it the sun porch, and, he would listen to the opera and take a nap. That was his Saturday afternoon, yet away. So he he did not instill in me a love of opera. I am not a huge opera buff. I'm a a very plebeian opera person. I know all the common operas, all the ones that everybody's heard of, and I enjoy those. But I'm not a huge opera person. I don't like Wagner. I don't like Mozard. I don't like any of those other operas. Just the the obvious ones. But I am a music lover. And that was also due to my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1059.53,1212.273"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Broadway shows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1212.3,1213.12"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e  Symphony. I love Symphony. I'm going to the Symphony, Friday as a matter of fact, in Seattle. So music was always a big part of our, home and our lie our home life. My father had this wonderful ability to play the piano without being able to read music. He played by ear. You could sing any song to him and he'd sit down and play it beautifully. And at one time, I remember him telling me that as a young man, he used to play the organ, at, the silent films in the local theater. So I always thought that was fascinating. I think now I may have misunderstood because I can't visualize him playing in Oregon. It was probably the piano, but he did play the music for silent films at one point in his young life. He was a grocery man. His whole life, his father was a a grocery entrepreneur. My dad's store was a little neighborhood store. He used to save coins. When people would pay everything was in cash in those days, he would always examine the coins. And he saved Indian Head pennies and Buffalo Nichols and Roosevelt Dimes and, silver dollars, although those kind of rare and few and far between, and he'd keep them in, a box under the counter at the front of the store. Where the cash register was. And then he would take the ones that he was saving and put them in his sock drawer So he'd have a sock of nickels and a sock of pennies in the stock of dimes. And, that was his hobby. He loved that. And those Roosevelt Dimes, sent my mother and me on a one month vacation to New Orleans to visit her sister, Sarah, and it was all paid for with Roosevelt Dimes. We took the city of New Orleans sleeper train from Chicago and went to New Orleans for a month when I was in About fourth grade, about ten years old. Yeah. I was ten. I celebrated my tenth birthday at the Antoine's restaurant in the French quarter in, New Orleans. So that was all fault of Roosevelt Dimes. And,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1214.14,1363.255"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Did he turn those dimes just for, face value or was there additional monetary value?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1363.575,1373.02"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. That's I know it was just face value. Just face value. He's saved a lot of times. We still have a box full of coins that my father collected over the years. One of my daughters has them in a safe in her house. And, eventually, those will all get divided up amongst all the grandchildren. I honestly don't know she's waiting for. She could do it now, but that's okay. My grandchildren not hers. My mother was a very active woman. I don't believe. I re in fact, I know I didn't realize at the time. How much she was, how active she was, but she was the president of sisterhood and the president of Odessa, She belonged to the Waterloo Women's Club, and, she helped my father in the store a couple of times a week. She was pretty formidable. And then, years later, when my father's store was, commandeered by the city, because it was a block away from a creek that used to flood every year and caused a lot of damage. And so they built a flood containment area and they tore down his store and the whole block behind it that he owned and paid him whatever, to get rid of it all. So my mother went back to work full time as a bookkeeper. And, she actually enjoyed that. She was a wonderful cook. Not of not of, good meat. In fact, we wouldn't let her cook a good steak because she'd always overcook it. But she made the best pot roast in the world, and she made the best side dishes, and the bake her baking was unparalleled. Everybody knew about her, especially her cheese knishes. When she'd make chief connections, all the women would line up, and she'd make, I don't know, how many hundreds of them because everybody wanted to take a dozen home with them and put them in their freezer. I did not inherit that wonderful talent from her, but she was an amazing baker. She played bridge. She and my father played bridge, and they also had a poker group. They played Poker. I can remember hearing them sitting around the dining room table. The dining room was at the center of our house. And you had to go through the dining room to get from the living room to the kitchen or to the bath or to the bedrooms, the dining room was right smack in the middle. And, I I can remember the wonderful times that they had playing poker around that table. There'd be eight of them just laughing and talking and having your best time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1373.4,1536.175"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Now did your parents also have a mix of Jewish and, Non Jewish friends?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1536.955,1543.34"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Mostly Jewish. Their their social circle was, I'd say, ninety eight percent Jewish. They knew a lot of non Jewish people through the women club and through my father's grocery store clientele, but, their social life was strictly almost completely with the Jewish community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1543.8,1560.375"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember who, who were some of those other couples that were part of the bridge? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1561.19,1567.03"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e sure. There was, Mary Maragolan. Saucey Levi. Saucey and Jay Levi. Of course, the other cones cousins, Stanley and Maxim, and the other Morris and Best? Did you know there were two Morris and best cones in Waterloo? The other Morris changed the spelling of his name to Maurice so that there'd be some sort of distinction between them. But there were two best and Morris cones. At one time, I'm told, they both both couples lived in the same apartment building on, Home Park Boulevard. And the mailman just gave up. He would just dump anything that said cone into one big bowl on the table and they'd go sorted out for themselves. The other best and Morris had four children, Norman being the oldest, then their daughter, Simma, and then their son Gary, and their younger son, youngest son, Richard. And Gary and I were a year apart in age, but we were in the same grade in school because I had skipped a semester in elementary school. So we ended up being in the same grade. And, we were very, very close. And I remember we went to US Y camp one summer together And we decided on the way. The camp was outside of Minneapolis, I think. And we decided on the way that we would tell everybody we were brother and sister. So we just combined our siblings and, you know, we were one big family. And, everybody believed us, which was no reason not to. But then when the camp session ended, and we wanted to stay in touch with some of the kids. We told them the truth. So that we could give them our phone numbers and our, mailing addresses, and then they didn't believe us. They thought we were making that up. But Gary and I were very close, and we have stage in touch all these years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1567.03,1686.35"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And where does he live now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1691.825,1693.445"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Unfortunately, he is extremely ill. He lives in the, Chicago suburbs, but I'm expecting a call any day now that we're gonna lose him. But, he's got four kids and his wife died just this past year. So, and I saw him last September. I was in Waterloo for my sixty seventh high school reunion. Believe it or not. And because the sixty fifths had to be canceled due to COVID, so we did a sixty seventh. And, my way back from, Iowa, on my way back to Washington. I stopped in Chicago, so I could see Gary. And I did see him. He was in a nursing home at the time, but I got to see him and he knew who I was and we had a lovely, little visit. So at least I got to see him last September.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1695.425,1745.945"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Old friends are special friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1748.5,1750.2"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. We were very special friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1750.9,1753.0"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Who else is that? I know about your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1755.595,1758.395"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e asked about their friends. Joe, There was, Joe we called him Joe Schuchone, and there was Joe potato cone. There were two two Joe's twos two men who had the same name, and one of them is sold, was a wholesaler for women's shoes and the other sold produce. So we Joe Joe potato and Joe Shoe. They were friends. The Blots, Doris, and Don't remember his Joe, Doris and Joe Blott. Wouldn't have been that many Joe's, but that's what I remember right now. The Rosen Falls. In fact, he owned the movie heater on the west side that showed all the b movies and the, you know, Roy Rogers and Day elevens and and Jean Audrey, all those films. And they had a daughter, Charlotte, who was a year younger than me in Charlotte, and we're very good friends, and we'd go to the movies together a lot for free at her dad's movie house. Unfortunately, Charlotte died right after she graduated high school. She got, leukemia and spent a lot of time at the Mayo Clinic. So we lost Charlotte wins, who was very young. They had a son bill. So they were also friends of my parents. And I know there's others that I can't think of right off the top of my head right now, but, yes, they had a large circle of friends and they were all Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1758.635,1854.17"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e You mentioned that your grandfather was also in the grocery business. And was this your paternal or maternal grant? Attorney. Attorney. My father's father.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1855.775,1868.26"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm I I never knew any of my grandparents. One had one was actually alive when I was born but died when I was an infant. So I never knew my grandparents. I've only heard stories about them. My father's father I'm told was quite a dandy. He was very handsome. He was at one point in his life, at least, evidently quite well off. He had, a matched pair of black horses that drove their carriage. He was one of the first people in town to have a electric automobile. My mother's father in Europe, and they all came from Russia, by the way. They all came from the area around Kiev. With the exception of my father's mother who came from Romania, same general area, but Romania. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1868.56,1917.945"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And their names? Pardon me? Do you remember their names?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1918.75,1922.77"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e J. D. K. D. Comb was my father's father. My mother's father was, I believe, I've told you this already. David Deichman. The mother the women were, Rachel. Esther. I'm I'm forgetting all of a sudden. Let's see. I I can't remember the women's names right this minute, but it'll come to me. My my mother's father, I was told, In Europe, Eastern Europe was the secretary to the wealthiest man in their village or town. I think it was more of a village. And this man traveled all over Europe on business and took my grandfather with him. And I'm told my grandfather spoke seven languages, was my mother's father, and was a really good card shark. And a good mathematician. But when they came to United States, he became a junk man. And he would go out with a horse and carry into the farmland areas in the morning. And when he thought he had gathered enough junk for one day, you come home. Whether it was eleven in the morning or four in the afternoon. Enough was enough, and then he'd go home. And my father used to say that My mother's parents were the most in love couple he'd ever known in his life, but they were just amazing. I always thought that was a lovely thing to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=1924.99,2019.765"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you had family reunions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2025.49,2027.11"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Not for a long time. We used to have what we call the cone club. When all the cones who were affiliated with my mother and father and the other best in Morris because the other Morris was one of four brothers. And the Com Brothers, they were called. And, we had a couple of family reunions. But last year, just last year actually for Passover. Over thirty of us from around the country gathered in Chicago. And, we had a passover seder together. And we were from California and Illinois and Merrill and Washington, DC, and Virginia, and Georgia, and Washington, we all gathered, and we had an amazing, wonderful reunion, and Passler Resader together. So that was that was very special.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2032.135,2091.245"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And people cook the did they cook the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2092.06,2095.739"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e we cooked everything. Okay. We cooked everything. I think the only thing we bought was the desserts. We had those catered or or, you know, we bought them at bake at a Jewish bakery and brought them in. But everything else was made there in Chicago at, we went to various people's homes who lived in Chicago and cooked in their kitchens. And brought all the food in ourselves. And because of there were several Chicago people who were part of the reunion, so it was just wonderful. And that was pretty much not a cone, reunion per se as much as my husband's family. And, a lot of his relatives, but there were some calm relatives there as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2097.02,2142.355"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Growing up, so you were born in the thirties. Growing up, during and after World War two. What do you remember? Did people talk about what was going on over in Europe? With Jews. Did you know about? Now we call it the Holocaust. That time we didn't have that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2145.3,2169.89"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a family that came to Waterloo who were survivors of the Holocaust. The maidan family, m a I d o n, I believe they're still family members living in Waterloo. I remember seeing the tattoo, the number tattoo on her arm and his arm. I was pretty young. I was born in thirty nine, so in forty five, When the war ended, I was only six years old, but I remember hearing hushed stories about the things that had happened. My oldest brother, Gil, kept a scrapbook of the war in terms they would print maps in the newspaper every day of where the allied forces were and he kept a whole scrapbook about World War two. I remember smashing metal cans I remember saving lard. I remember my father would go out. I think about once a week, it was his turned to go and make sure that everybody had their blinds pulled at night so there was no light. And I remember in later years last and thinking, who's gonna bomb Waterloo, Iowa, I mean, what's there? But it was part of the, the war fever or spirit or whatever you wanna call it. And actually, there was a, dormitory in Peter Falls at the at what is now UNI that had u University of Yeah. UNI University of Northern Iowa. That used to be called TC. Used to call it I was a teacher's college, and we refer to it as t c. And there were waves, you know, maybe women waves, who were stationed there. And I don't know what they did there. There must have been some sort of a training class, but I remember having two of them Maybe three for a Passover seder one year. And I remember taking that we had pictures of them, and I gave those pictures to the Jewish Museum in Washington DC. As part of an exhibit they were doing about World War who and the Jews who participated. And, I gave them the picture of those women. I don't remember much more about World War II myself. Or the aftermath other than the maidan family. And they had a little girl. She was adorable. And at my Because my twelfth birthday party. My one of my friend's mothers was a very wonderful photographer, and she came to the party and took choose of everybody. And she took these amazing pictures of that little girl. I can't, I think, her name's Sylvia. Sylvia might, Anyhow, they she had wonderful pictures of her from that party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2171.145,2348.585"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it sounds like You did not experience anti Semitism when you were in Waterloo. Did you Did you find that there was still some ignorance about Judaism?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2352.085,2364.925"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e There still is. There was that, and there is no. There'd always be ignorance about judaism, and and mistaken ideas. I can tell you a few stories about that. As far as Abby Semages here, I only experienced it twice. One was, and I don't think he even knew that it was anti Semitic remark. But some one of the boys in one of our classes at remember where in high school, was giving a book report about something, and he used the expression they jude him down. And I didn't even hear it that way. I thought he said chewed them down. It just went right over my head. But but Susan Blindman, who was, in my class in, in, high school, low all all growing up, one of our public people. She became incensed and stopped me after class and said, did you hear what he said? I said, oh, what? What are you talking about? And she pointed it out to me, and I I have not heard it that way, but I'm sure she was right. But I also don't think that he even knew or suspected that that was an anti semitic remark. It was just part of his language. And then I knew about another a boy who was part of our big crowd. And he and I went out on a date in high school and had a fun time, and then I never heard from him again. And I said something to one of his friends. I said, how come you never called or I never heard from him again? We had such a good time. And he's and he The friend kind of hesitated, and then he said to me, his father found out you were Jewish and told him he couldn't date you anymore. So those are the only two experiences that I can recall of anything that was anti Semitic. Yeah. The other funny story or funny story rather is that in college, My first year of college. I was in a dormitory with three other roommates. Her names were Greenstein, own and, Guggenheim, and then there was a fourth girl. And the fourth girl was from his Dinky little teeny tiny farm town in Iowa. So Thanksgiving rolls around. Her name was Mona. I don't remember her last name, but her name was Mona. And Mona said to the three of us, I have this wonderful idea. Why don't we all bring back one or two of our favorite Christmas ornaments and we'll put up a tree in our room for Christmas? So now, the three of us kinda looked at each other, and we kinda looked at Mona. We've been living together right for two and a half months at this point. I looked at Rona, and I said, Mona, I said, we don't have any Christmas ornaments. And she said, what do you mean? You don't have Christmas ornaments? And I said, well, we don't celebrate Christmas. We're Jewish. The look on her face was So unbelievable. It's it's almost impossible to describe. It transformed itself from surprise, to horror, to questioning. She just couldn't get it through her head that she had been living with three Jewish girls for two and a half months, and there was nothing wrong with us. We didn't have horns. We weren't trying to kill her. We we all had a wonderful time together. So I don't know that that's anti Semitism. I think that's just ignorance. But, it didn't change your attitude towards us. We stayed friends through the rest of the year. It was, but it was so funny. So funny when we told her we were Jewish. First Jewish she'd ever met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2367.305,2594.79"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And What what school were you at? Missus had I'm in Iowa in Iowa City. Oh, in Iowa City. Okay. Well, tell me about, how you left Iowa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2596.53,2612.08"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e I fell in love. I was at my cousin's engagement party in a suburb of Chicago, and I was introduced to this colleague student who was all the way across the room, and this young man said to me, Kamano, introduce you to my cousin. And I saw this boy across the room, and my stomach did a somersault. I mean, just from across the room. And I could I could describe you today exactly what it was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2614.78,2645.537"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e worth. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2645.537,2645.83"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e sounds like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2645.83,2646.39"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e a Broadway song.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2646.39,2647.61"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. It does, doesn't it? It is. It is. You know, some enchanted evening. That's exactly what it was. So I met this man, this boy, and it was love at first sight for both of us as it turns out. And so two and a half years later after Correspondence. He was a senior in college on the East Coast. I was a freshman in college at Iowa. We corresponded. He graduated, and and and went into the air force in California and stopped in Iowa along the way to see me and so we have this, long distance romance over a two and a half year period, and then we got married. So I left school and got married, and he was stationed in California, and we drove he saved up all his, leave. And we had a one month's honeymoon and drove cross country and ended up in California, Edwards Air Force Base, where he was stationed. And, we were there for another year and a half. And then he went to graduate school at Stanford. And then, we decided we should go back to the Midwest because by then, we had a one year old, almost one year old child. And we went we moved to Chicago. And we lived there for three years, and then we came back to California, and we spent the rest of our life together, in California. So that's how I ended up in California. Did not graduate college took classes off and on over the years just because they interested me. I really didn't care about getting a degree per se. I just wanted keep learning, and I did. So, unfortunately, my husband died young. He was He died shortly before his sixty fourth birthday. So I was widowed twenty five years ago. And, Three years later, was introduced to a man through a mutual friend. The man was nineteen years older than me, but you would never have known it from his attitude and his, style and his love of life, and we ended up being together for eleven years. And then I lost him. And so I've been a single woman now for another twelve years, I guess. Yeah. So that's the the history of my, demand in my life, except for my high school, sweetheart. Who I loved dearly. But he wasn't Jewish, and he and I made a conscious decision to end our relationship because he felt very strongly about being Christian, and I felt very strongly about being Jewish. But we stayed friends our whole lives. And, That's another Broadway song.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2648.15,2818.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you've stayed friends with people in Waterloo. And you've mentioned the book club. Can you talk a little bit about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2822.12,2829.215"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Did I talk to who about what? You mentioned that you're involved with the book club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2830.555,2837.92"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And you've stayed friends with people here in Waterloo. Did you talk a little bit about the book club?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2838.38,2844.24"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure. I currently live in a, TCRC, continuing care retirement community. I live in independent living. It's a faith based organization. This building and it's a corporation Well, this building, our, fifty one percent methodist and forty nine percent presbytery, and I am the only Jew in the whole complex. Which is fine. Having grown ups the way I did. I have no problem being around non Jews all the time. But I began to miss a Jewish connection with somebody somewhere because there are not a lot of Jews in Bonnie Lake. Washington. I can tell you that. So I read, I've stayed in touch with sons of Jacob all these years, and I get their newsletter every week. Every month. And I noticed that they had a book club called Jewish Connections, and I thought, oh, so I emailed them. And I said, can I join your book club? And they said, absolutely. And so that's why I joined. I wanted a connection with Jewish people. And, then when I went back to Waterloo for my high school reunion last September, I had the wonderful opportunity to meet these women in person. And we had lunch together, and we discussed one of our books. And it was it's just been a delightful, wonderful connection for me. I have stayed in touch with several of my non Jewish friends from Waterloo. And as I said, I'm still in touch with Zena. Who's in Sioux City. But something very funny happened here at, Hanukkah, last year. My daughter and the son-in-law live in a fifty five plus community that is right next door to this retirement community, which is why I ended up here because I wanted to be near them. And their community has a lodge with you know, all kinds of amenities. And they got a an email from the lodge telling them there was going to be a menorah lighting on the first night of Hanukkah last year. And they were shocked. And so was I. So, of course, they invited me to come and bring a menorah, which I did. And thirty seven people showed up. And none of us knew that there were that many Jewish people in that little community, in that little, fifty five plus community. So the the upshot of it is that they have what they call the shalom club, and we now celebrate all the Jewish holidays together. And we go to, Broadway musicals together in the little towns around here. And it so I do have a Jewish connection here that I didn't know I had. But that doesn't mean I don't still enjoy my wonderful Jewish connection at the Book Club in, Waterloo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=2844.635,3024.175"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e That's that's wonderful. That's a Sarah Dippett is happening. Yes. Well, five fifty years from now. What do you want your family? Your community to know about who you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=3027.34,3046.57"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e That's one of the reasons I wrote the book. I said, I want my ancestors to know who I was. The people who know me now understand my sense of humor and my philosophy of life. But There will be other generations who will not know me, and this will give them some insight into who I am or who I was at that time. What do I want my children? I want my grandchildren to live in peace. I just, I I worry terribly about the direction this country is taking and the world in general. I, I would like them to be able to visit Israel as I did and as my children all have. And My grandsons from Southern California were planning to do a where where they send them for free to Israel. I forgot what it's called right now. I I don't think they're gonna be able to do that now because they're gonna be too old. I think they stop at age twenty six or something. And isn't that a shame that these kids Jewish and non Jewish? Can't feel safe visiting Israel anymore. I I grieve for what's happening over there on both sides of the border. I fed on October eighth that regardless of what happens in the next months or year, somehow or other Israel will be found to blame for it. Even though they didn't start it. But I knew that they'd take the hit, and and they are. I I think that Hamas has done a brilliant job. Of, making Israel the bad guy. I won't go into politics. Just want my grandchildren and my great and I do have two great grandsons right now? Who, by the way, are Catholic. My my son married a woman who had two children. At the time. And she had been born Catholic, but was a non practicing Catholic. And the children were introduced to Judaism. They were three and seven at the time. But then my son and his first wife were divorced five years later. And, as the years passed, my son remarried, a Jewish woman, and had another child. And my, ex daughter-in-law remarried. And the upshot of it is that and and we never lost touch with the grant with the children. So those two little kids who became my grandchildren when they were three and seven have always been my grandchildren just because the parents couldn't get along as you know, you don't turn off your loan from grandchildren just because the parents have a problem. So anyhow, they've always been my grandchildren. So My ex daughter-in-law remarried, and, the the girl who was three when, my son married became her stepfather. She has grown up, and she's now married. And she married a Catholic boy whose mother insisted that the children be raised Catholic and to which she agreed. So I now have two great grandsons who are baptized Catholic. We have quite a diverse family. My, daughter in Southern California married a man who also was born in Catholic, but never practiced it. And he's half Native American and half Mexican American. So I have three Jewish Indian grandchildren who are, just wonderful. One this One of the boys is, has been dating a Mexican girl, Mexican American for three years, and the other boy has been dating a, Chinese girl for three years. So my family is expanding globally in terms of culture and religion. I just want them to live in peace and be happy. That's what I want. I don't want them to ever lose their connection to Judaism. Whether or not they choose to have a Jewish home or belong to a temple or a synagogue remains to be seen in my humble opinion, I don't think that will happen. But I do believe they will always consider themselves Jewish. It's and they've all been Marambaut Mitzvah, the the kids from Southern California, the ones who are dating all these amazing people. And it's it's in their it's in their soul as is their Native American heritage. That's another thing that's in my book is my granddaughter, Beth, who was named after my mother. Told me one day when she was quite young and said, grandma, tell me about your past. Tell me tell me something about you. And I wrote her a letter, and it's in the book. And it starts out by saying how lucky she is that she has two such diverse grandparents. Grandmothers, the grandfathers are both dead. Her other grandmother is Native American. One of the pillars of the church in San Juan Capistrano, headed the swallow's Day parade is this statuesqueous, gorgeous Native American woman, and I'm who I am. So here's this child, this child with two totally different grandmothers, totally different cult totally different religions, and isn't she lucky? Isn't she lucky? And I just That's the only one. I I don't want Judaism to die out in their hearts and in their souls. I don't want Judaism to die out at all. But I just want them to live in peace and be happy and fulfilled. That's what I want for my grandchildren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=3047.355,3446.33"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much for your time today. You're very welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=3449.285,3453.225"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966/transcript/87294/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eShelley Linick:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you for having me. I'm ending the call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163684/file/297966#t=3454.005,3458.265"}]}]}]}