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That's a good one. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2.08,7.08"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me, we can start","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=9.92,12.38"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e this recording again. Say this is for the Iowa Jewish Historical Society. My name is Susan Jellinger, I'm the oral historian. We're doing an oral history today with Adrian Nadler from Waterloo, Iowa. We're going to be talking about and having pictures about her family, her mother, her being in Waterloo, some about her life. And this is part of a project for life histories, but also we're doing one in collaboration with the Sons of Jacob Synagogue in Waterloo and also the Grout Museum in Waterloo. So this interview will become part of our archives at the Iowa Jewish Historical Society, along with copies going to our narrator and those other two institutions So again, welcome Adrian","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=13.06,72.007"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=73.62,77.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to start this part with some more specific questions. You had told me earlier that your name is Adrian Phyllis Nash, Nash is your birth name. And did you have a Hebrew or Jewish name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=77.92,105.66"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I did. It's not official or anything. My there's some Oh, there that turn that up. Adele Fagel would be my Yiddish name. And I don't know my dad's original name. I know my other grandfather was Rebaha. My mother's name would have been, my grandfather was from Belarus and his name was Rebaha. And when he came here, his cousins that came earlier changed the name to Ruben. So my mother's name was then Martha Ruben. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=106.12,151.96"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And let's see I had found an obituary for your mother online, and it had said, yes, her name, they had her maiden name as Ruben, that she married Bernard Marsh, and that her mother was Sophie Fishstein ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=152.72,178.322"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Sophie Fishtein. Sima, her name was really Sima, but I guess they called her Sophie as an American name. I don't, yeah, so her name would have been Sima. I don't know what that is in Yiddish, but I guess translated. So, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=180.48,197.46"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And then your mother's father was Benjamin Rubin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=198.1,202.66"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Benjamin. Bencien was his name growing up until he came here. So it would have been Bencien Rubaha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=203.14,210.9"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And then you married Sy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=212.98,215.186"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Sy Nadler. It was originally Seymour. And I don't think he changed it officially, but in the music business. He was a musician. He changed it to Sy. So he was always Sy Nadler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=218.64,229.22"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And that you had two sons, Benjamin and Paul. Yeah. You have your brother, Mark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=229.4,237.149"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'd mark is my brother. I have a brother, Mark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=238.18,241.52"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. His","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=241.72,242.22"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e name is Mark Victor Nash. He was born just after the war ended 1945, September 1st, 1945. My son, one son is Benjamin David, and the other one is actually Bernard Paul, which is called Paul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=242.22,257.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Okay. And then you had, they mentioned in that obituary, also, an uncle, George Rubin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=257.68,265.32"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, George Rubin, and he changed his name to George Robin, because I guess of prejudice against Reuben, Jews maybe, and he died, it's been, let's see, it's over five years ago, 99 and a half.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=266.16,286.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And you had told me earlier that, you know, you went back to school. And I had seen online that you graduated from Hawkeye Community College. And then you also got a degree from the University of Northern Iowa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=287.62,304.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=305.38,305.88"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And what were those degrees in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=306.32,308.26"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, well, I got an AA at Hawkeye, just a general AA, and then a BA in education, elementary education. And then I took a few courses after that, two or three courses after that, but I didn't get any further degrees. So my degree is a BA in education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=308.56,328.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And you had talked about your mother and how extremely active she was. How personable she was. Yes. She was such a consensus builder. So I'd like to talk a little bit about growing up; when you came to Waterloo in 1960. If you could talk about how it was in your at home. You said you were 13 years old. Did your family do any Jewish practices at home? What was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=330.6,371.02"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e I will mention that, but I do wanna mention that since you're asking about my education, my brother's education, He graduated from UNI. My mother did go back to school and she did have a certificate where she worked in the hospital. So she had a vocation there and then she didn't finish her BA. She did have courses towards that. She had a couple of years of what would be equal to college. She would probably have an AA, but not a BA. So we moved here 1960.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=371.72,403.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e And when we lived in Chicago, I stayed home for the Jewish holidays and went to synagogue. Now I didn't get to walk to the synagogue. I had to take a bus to the synagogue. And I would go, you know, they had services in the morning and my mother would go in the evening. My grandfather and my father, I don't think they ever went to synagogue and the why we lived in Chicago unless there was some family thing going on that they would like a wedding or something unusual. We did get together with relatives for the holidays. Sometimes we would go to my cousins and for Pesach we did go for Hanukkah. I think we usually, I had one set of cousins that was within walking distance actually, and we went there quite often. And so our holiday surrounded around the meal and what was going on. My cousins did go to synagogue regularly, but my parents didn't. When my grandfather came here, he didn't stay involved. He was very poor, didn't have enough money to even give the synagogue money when there was a yurt site. So he just kind of broke away because they didn't allow for him. It was like, you know, they expected him to do more. And he was struggling as a new immigrant, always being the last to hire and the first to be fired. And so my mother and struggled to save money to go to school because they knew that was important And education was important. That was your road out. And my uncle, her younger brother joined the military. And just when he was getting out of the military is when the war started. So he ended up being in the military through the whole war. So when he got out, he didn't go back to school. He just, he was more self-educated, very well-read, like my father. Father finished eighth grade and was very well-read, and my mother was well-read too. So here in Waterloo, so when we moved here, I think my mother felt she needed to be more involved in the Jewish community because everybody that was Jewish, or almost everybody, probably 95% of the Jewish people were connected to the synagogue. And all our cousins here were, and all the people she met that were Jewish, were connected to the synagogue. So we would either have my cousins over for holidays or we would go to them on the holidays. And in later years, my mother would invite either her friends over and if there were any single people that came to the university, there was by themselves, She invited them over. So we always got to meet somebody new. There was hardly a year went by that somebody didn't get invited to our house for one of the nights of the services. And as my mother was here longer, she became more friendly with other Jewish people and did get together with them on the holidays.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=405.04,612.66"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e She became very friendly with the Rosenthal's (Lew \u0026 Mabel) and if you know anything about them, Nate Rosenthal was the nephew of the Rosenthal's that there was just, that were, had a vaudeville act and were quite well-known","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=613.48,628.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e and ended up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=628.86,629.58"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e settling in, first in Waterloo, I think, and then in Cedar Falls. So if you know anything about them, there is a whole exhibit at the museum in Cedar Falls. So my mother was very friendly with Mary Rosenthal, with Rosalind Hughes, and she was friendly with a few other people and she was friendly with Mrs. Krinsky a little bit and somebody that moved to Waterloo and then married somebody here and then left when she divorced. She was very friendly with her. That was Bernice Levine. And so she made friends easily. She also had non-Jewish friends And she didn't invite them on the Jewish holidays. I don't, and they didn't invite us on their holidays. It's just people kind of kept separate, but she had a lot of non-Jewish friends. But as far as Jewish friends, I think she liked that outside stimulation and education. And one cousin, niece of hers, was active in politics. And so she had more in common with her. So we didn't celebrate, we weren't kosher, we didn't keep kosher. We celebrated the holidays like dinners on the Pesach Seder and we had for New Year's and we had the dinners. My mother went to synagogue, but we didn't do anything else religiously as far as keeping Shabbos, because we didn't do that in Chicago. So when my mother came here, she was more like the Reform Jew joining the conservative synagogue because everybody joined this conservative synagogue. There was only one synagogue. So if you were Orthodox, it was very hard to be Orthodox. A few people lived within walking distance of the synagogue and there were some that kept kosher and there were some that tried to walk to the synagogue or be a little bit more orthodox. But they couldn't be because they were business people and they had to work on Shabbos. As my parents, I mean, my mother didn't have to work on Shabbos if she didn't want to, but my father really did being in a retail business. So what a lot of the women here, they always came to the synagogue for the sisterhood meeting and the Hadassah meeting. That was the day, the day off that was always on a Wednesday. So as far as we didn't celebrate any non-Jewish holidays when I was in Chicago. 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My father was like surprised when my mother brought, made a cake for his first, the first birthday after they were married. So a lot of Jewish people didn't particularly celebrate birthdays in any big way. And I did have birthday parties in Chicago, but when I came here, I didn't have any friends at first. And so I didn't celebrate a birthday other than my parents giving me a gift. And I got a Hanukkah present, which is just because people that were all my classmates were getting Christmas gifts. So that's why I got Hanukkah gifts and maybe some Hanukkah gelt from my grandfather. But we lit candles. We always lit candles for Hanukkah. But, and my mother made latkes, and that was a big deal in our home. So everybody liked latkes. I didn't really care. So We ate Jewish food. My mother was a great cook. So when we lived in Chicago, she made gefilte fish. When we moved to Waterloo, she didn't do as much Jewish cooking as she bought more things because she was working more. But she did do everything else. She did the meal and she did everything, but maybe made gefilte fish twice. And after that we bought it, but she'd make the cakes and she'd buy all the Jewish foods that were shipped in. We had them shipped in and you went and picked them up. And if anybody came from Chicago, they brought Jewish foods. Whether it was kosher or not, they just brought things that we were used to getting in Chicago. Because in Chicago you just you didn't think about it until you moved here and realized you didn't have bagels, you didn't have rye bread, you didn't have corned beef, you didn't have the things you were used to. So, but I went to a very, very small school, like I said, and it was very difficult. 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It was outside the Waterloo School District, even though I lived within walking distance of the Waterloo School. It was a long walk. In the winter, I couldn't have walked that far. It was a very long walk to the Waterloo schools. But now they're down the street from where my mother lives because they built more schools. But I had to be bussed three miles out because I lived two blocks on the wrong side of town. And so some parents paid to send their kids to the Waterloo schools, or they sent them away to school. Some of the parents did, one family sent them away to private schools. So it was a little difficult for me because I couldn't go, the people I ended up becoming friendly with at school, didn't live close, they were bused in, whereas the ones in my neighborhood already had their established groups and they weren't as many, they weren't very many. There were like two or three girls, yeah, probably three, and they weren't, they were friendly, but they weren't friendly with, they were friendly at school, but they weren't that friendly. So I never was friendly with the ones in the neighborhood. And there were a couple that were younger than me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=938.44,1019.14"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, moving from Chicago to Waterloo, you know, like you said, foods weren't available in the same way, just a much smaller community. How was it for you? You probably didn't have any other Jewish students in your school besides your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1019.28,1040.359"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e brother. Well, I had my brother for a while. Actually, there was one boy that came that I never knew, he was younger than me and I never knew he was there. But the other students that lived in my neighborhood, didn't like the students next door and the students down the street, they didn't and the students that were a little further, a couple of blocks away in my particular neighborhood, their parents paid for them to go to the Waterloo schools. So I only saw them at Sunday school. Okay. So, yeah. Even though there were 11 of us in my Sunday school class and I was friendly with some of them, I didn't go to school with them. There was one, three girls that I was friendly with from Sunday school. One moved back to Mexico to live with her dad. That was my best. Who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1040.359,1102.12"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e were those three?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1102.12,1103.04"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Their last name, there were two cousins and their last name was Barg, B-A-R-G. I can't remember her first name offhand, but when she was 14, she moved. So that's a long time ago, but her cousin Joanne Barg was in the same class. We were all three in the same class and I was friendly with her. And then there was Judy Wolf. The Wolfs were the Mrs. Wolf, and Wolf was the daughter of the Strums in town. And her daughter, Judy, and I were very friendly all through high school. Even though she didn't go to school with me, I saw her on weekends. I saw her at Sunday school until we were 13 and then, or 16 until we were confirmed. And then after that, I kept seeing her. But the other girls in the class, they all went to a different school, but I wasn't friendly with them. I mean, if I saw them, I would say hello, but they weren't particularly friendly. And then the boys, there were only four boys. One was my neighbor. And my brother became very friendly with him. So he was at our house fairly often. And he was the oldest. And I mean, I went over there to his house a few times and he had a little sister, but she was quite a bit younger than me. His name was Walt Weissman. There was Walt Weissman, his younger brother, Wayne Weissman, and then he had another brother, Wes Weissman, and then the sister, Nancy Weissman. So the Weissmans lived close to us. There was a family of Nadler's down the street. They went to it. There were three of them. They went to a different school. The road","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1107.66,1211.38"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e rated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1211.38,1211.88"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e No, we weren't related. My husband. I mean, maybe back 1000 years ago, who knows we really related. We weren't related at all. And then there was the Rosens, the Lipkins, the Feldmans, and the Coens, and the Levi's lived in my neighborhood. Maybe not on my street, but in my neighborhood. And they all went to the Waterloo schools because their parents paid to send them to the Waterloo schools. One little boy I found out didn't. He went to my school. So there were two family of cones. Actually, there were two family of cones and they lived, I think on the same street. They lived on the street over from me. So Most of the Jewish people lived over on the street over from me. And then a couple lived on my street. So I did. Yeah. Well, no. Trying to think nobody lived on My nobody else lived on my exact street, but maybe lived over one street this way or one street that way. One street. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1212.72,1281.6"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e street did you live on? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1281.6,1283.0"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e lived in Sheridan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1283.0,1283.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And what's the street that most of the other people lived on? Prospect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1284.44,1288.34"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Most of them lived in Prospect. There was one family on Rachel, one or two families on Sunrise or Sunset, can't remember. And there were two families on that, the Weissmans and the Rosens. And then the Lipkins, the two family of Coens, and the Feldmans and the Levi's, all lived on Prospect. Oh, there was another family that lived on my street. Their name was Cone. There were a lot of Cones in town, but they were older than me. Maybe the youngest child could have been about graduating high school. Maybe he was off to college. I mean, I knew who he was, but he was several years older than my older brother. My mother knew them from the synagogue, but there weren't any children to be friendly with on my street. And on the other streets, they all went to a different school. So I was kind of a little isolated from the Jewish children in that sense. And the school was actually much, that they went to was much, much bigger than my school, probably five times as big. I mean, we had 80 students in our class and they probably had 500 in their class. So it was a difference. And having a Ben Franklin, we sold Christmas things. You wanted something Jewish, you went to the synagogue and got it there. And when we lived in Chicago, we lived in an apartment building, so the neighbors upstairs were Jewish, and the ones above them was a mixed marriage. So they celebrated Hanukkah and Christmas. So I could run up there and decorate the Christmas tree. So why don't you ask me questions? Maybe you want to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1288.58,1400.2"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Since you went to a basically a country school. And you and your brother and we're about the only Jewish students there, Did you experience the ignorance that people had about Judaism? Would you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1400.38,1419.3"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd say there was some ignorance. My brother, there was only one person that was, gave my brother a hard time. And I don't know if it was, I don't think it was because he was Jewish. I think it was just because my brother was so good looking, and all the girls liked him. And he had a friend that was a wrestler, and he said, nah. You're going to deal with me if you push him around because it was, he was the one that went to state. So my brother probably didn't have outward antisemitism. He had one girl he dated and the girl's mother liked my brother, but didn't want her daughter to marry my brother because he was Jewish. And she was very worried they were gonna get serious, even though she was very impressed with my brother and actually liked him. And if he would have said, yes, I'll convert, she probably would have been delighted. But so there was that. It wasn't just prejudice against Jews. It was just wanting to keep, you know, we're a small community. It was a farming community. It was a small, closed community. People there hadn't seen too many Jews. There was one boy that went to school there, actually he did live on my street, He was lazier, but he was slow. There was a birth problem at birth. I forgot about him. He did live down the street. I was friendly with him, and he went to school with me, but they just passed him for a few years. He couldn't be educated too far along. So, and he was an only child and his parents had a clothing store. So people knew, I'm sure knew he was Jewish. And people did find out I was Jewish, but nobody ever said anything to me. Maybe that might have been why they were less friendly. One girl, I remember telling her I was Jewish and she was like shocked. She wasn't a friend. She was just somebody who went to school. She didn't live in my neighborhood. She was bused in from another area and she was in shock. So I think maybe she thought I was supposed to have horns. And because I did remember teasing somebody and telling them I had them removed and they believed me. I'm sure that's how naive some of these people were and ignorant. They were ignorant. So I think that Nobody mistreated me because I was Jewish. So I didn't have ever any outward anti-Semitism. Whatever they thought of me, they kept it to themselves. Most of the people that I went to school with came from good homes. And they were pleasant. They were well brought up. We didn't have criminals at our school. We didn't have drug addicts at our school. I mean, some of the boys might've gone out drinking on the weekends. The worst thing they did was throw toilet paper on your house. And we did get hit once. If you were popular, you got hit once. Normally, my brother was with these people, so we didn't get hit too often. The school got, they threw toilet paper on the school. That was probably the big crime that we had growing up was they threw toilet paper all over the trees by the school and that was a mess to clean up. So, I mean, they didn't, schools didn't like that. They didn't like it at all. Other than that, we didn't have problems when I was growing up. We had a few students that did very poorly. And some of them quit school, got married, and quit school, went to work. Other than that, we rarely had any problems. So nobody mistreated me. And when a teacher asked me about being Jewish and being, you know, I was always used to non-Jewish people and I had non-Jewish friends. So I answered him, no, I'm fine because nobody mistreated me. And one of the other girls in the class who was very shocked that he asked me this said to me years later that she was embarrassed for me because she thought that was, why did he ask that? He put me on the spot. But what they didn't know is when I lived in Chicago, I went to a school that was probably only 20% Jewish. Well, that was a lot of Jewish students, but I had a friend that was Jewish and then the rest of them were not Jewish. So I was friendly with a couple of Jewish kids and a friendly with ones that weren't, but my cousins were Jewish. So those were my Jewish connections. So when I came to Waterloo, my cousins that I wasn't as connected with my cousins, because even they went to the other school. They were one was a year younger, and I was all friendly with her, and one was two years younger, and I wasn't as close to her. And-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1420.08,1732.7"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e What were your cousins' names?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1733.0,1734.5"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, one, I was cousins with the Liedermans. So there was three Liedermans in town that stayed in town. Two brothers, Marvin Liederman and Sidney Liederman. And Sidney married late, so I was more friendly with his wife than his kids. Now I'm friendly with his children. But Marvin's daughter was a couple years younger than me, and her older brother was the same age as my brother. So we saw them on holidays or at the synagogue. My other cousin married, what was his name, Turnbull, Gordon Turnbull. And so she didn't come to the synagogue. She found it very difficult to be friendly with Jewish people because her mother had a hard time marrying my, it was my dad's older sister. She married somebody and she was very unhappily married and ended up in an institution. And so there was a stigma around that. So Miriam Turnbull never came to the synagogue unless she was invited for a family affair. So she had three children, and so she never brought her daughter to the synagogue or brought her up Jewish, and her husband wasn't Jewish. So she married somebody that was Catholic, And their children were brought up sort of not in a very strictly religious family, but Catholic. And I don't know what they believe today. Her two younger brothers married women from mixed marriages, Jewish, part non-Jewish. So there was all this mixture there. Anything else you'd like to know about my upbringing? So I personally found it hard. Whereas my brother found it very easy. He loved it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1734.94,1843.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e So he was involved in sports.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1843.78,1845.84"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, he was involved with sports. And he was in with the with with everybody with the popular kids and his class only had like 30-40 kids in there. He knew everybody and almost everybody was friendly with everybody if there's only 40 kids. So, so he was. You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1846.1,1866.06"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e said he was, besides the sports, he was one of his best friends was the, the genius of the class. Do you remember who it was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1866.06,1873.76"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it was Jim Lockard. And I think he was probably the smartest kid in the whole school, probably for all, even, I don't think anybody could match him, even, well, our valedictorian was pretty smart, but there would have been no contest, no matter which class he would have been in, he would have been valedictorian. And, cause he was just brilliant. And my brother was very close with him. And he would come, even after my brother was no longer living at home, he'd stop and see my mother. So my brother's friends, until they married, moved away, they would come to the house and people enjoyed coming to our home. My girlfriends were in and out of my home. My mother's friends would come over. My father was very the opposite of friendly, very kind of a little bit rough and gruff and a little bit shy. He was kind of introverted, even though he was a businessman, he was a bit introverted. Whereas my mother was just the opposite. Her friends came over. They were friendly with everybody. So my mother actually went out a lot to like. With her friends, maybe she went to plays and concerts. She took me to the concerts. My brother wouldn't go. She took me to the plays, she took me to things that were going on. There was something at the museum, we always went to things. Anything going on at the university, we went to the university. So my mother was used to always going to things in Chicago. So whatever was going on here in Waterloo or Cedar Falls, she went to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1873.78,1971.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e She did this with you, not just as a school-aged child, but also as a young adult when you came? Oh","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=1972.12,1980.18"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e yeah, oh yeah. And when we lived in Chicago and she was involved, she took a few students to the concert downtown Waterloo. So she came here, she wasn't involved with the PTA, but she got involved with the concert. We went to every concert we could go to. If there was an art show, we went to that. And as an adult, we went to concerts, we went to plays, we went to art shows, we went to Chicago to hear opera singers to see special exhibits. So my mother was always going to things, special things. There was a play, she used to take me to the children's plays in Chicago, and there was a special one that was in the evening shortly, about a year before we left. Mark Twain, she took me to that. And we didn't get home till after 10 o'clock at night, really late. So my mother was into the arts. She was into culture. And we went to everything. We got tickets to every little thing. If there was somebody coming in, and we even went to Waverly. Waverly has a small, very nice, Wartburg College, small private school. We went to the things they had there. They had Spanish dance. They had a special concert. We didn't go to everything they had because it was 25 miles away. And when my husband would take us, when he was there, we went. Before that, we didn't go to everything they had because we didn't drive that far away at night. Because my dad didn't go to these things. And my dad became more ill after we were here a while, but my mother was on the go. She gave charity luncheons. She's in her 80s. She's doing charity luncheons for Hadassah, for whatever. And so she was always very active. I mean, she just took off from work. She had people that ran things while she wasn't there, or I took care of things. And so, Mother was always on the go, always doing things. And then when she sort of retired, she started playing bridge. And she went, probably played bridge maybe five times a week. And she'd always played bridge in Chicago, and she was an excellent bridge player. And she played a couple of days, and then they call her, they need it. Would she play extra? Would she do duplicate? Which she didn't really care for. And which is just a little bit different, not that much. And so she was driving to Cedar Falls like five times a week. I mean, not originally starting out there, but she was. And she took my son for tutoring to UNI when I was working. And so she did things with the kids. She baked things for them. We did holidays. She did all those things. We almost always did the holidays at her house. Once or twice we'd do them at my house. So I'd drag my things over there. So we just left things over there at my mother's. She had a bigger home and a bigger table and all the equipment and everything. And so she would just give me chores to do. Things that she didn't like doing, make the harosas. She didn't like doing that. So I did that. She didn't, making the extra cake. I did the cakes. That way she didn't have to, cause she was, she used to do everything. And so she would give me a few things to do and I would make the simas and stuff things that I made that she liked I would do them. So, and we had a luncheon in our house. Hadassah luncheon. This is a picture of my mom at the table. 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Then so she would have been in her 50s. She was like 32, 33 years older than me, something like, yeah, 32, 33 years older than me. So She was doing them then. I mean, the house was so crowded, you could barely move around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2219.06,2241.06"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e But I had- She was very active with his DASA and also the sisterhood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2242.88,2247.52"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah. And my cousin, Miriam Turnbull, was active in the Democratic Party. So my mother went to a few things with her. Mostly my mother was active in League of Women Voters. So didn't, you know, she didn't, it didn't matter what political party you're in. She had a good friend who was in the Republican, a Republican, and so they were very close. And she had non Jewish friends that she would see and that She would go to plays with before I was older. She would go to things with, I think, Iola Robinson and Betty McKay or McCully, Kay, I think her name was. And there was another lady, can't remember all their names, but she had several non-Jewish friends that she was very close with, and they would go and do things. I mean, the things that weren't Jewish that they did, that there were community things or the arts, because My mother was very interested in that. So I wanted to show you before I go too far. This is my mother. She's a little girl next to her brother. It was an awful haircut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2249.64,2321.42"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And what was her brother's name? Was that Uncle George?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2322.98,2325.84"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Uncle George had one brother and her mother died when he was about a year old. And here's them, I guess he's a teenager and she's probably an older teenager there. And then my mother, since she was she lived in foster homes. Oh, this I didn't show you this one yet. She did live in foster homes a lot until she was like 12. And then my grandfather lived with her back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2326.02,2358.24"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Now we can see her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2358.24,2363.46"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And this is my mother. So because she moved around a little bit, she graduated high school at 19 instead of 18. Because I guess she had to move around, she'd repeated some stuff. 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I have no idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2388.9,2394.1"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Now you mentioned that she was in a foster home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2394.14,2396.76"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yep, she was in several foster homes. Her brother was in one foster home, he stayed in one, and the daughter took care of him. But my mother was in several, because the first one they put her in, the dog bit her, and my grandfather was upset, even though they loved her. And They took very good care of her. And so she was in several different homes. And then my grandfather, so then my uncle came to live with them and he was living with them. So all three were living with this family. And My mother was, if she was 13, the boy, the brother, they were boys and they were starting to bother my mother. So my grandfather at that point got an apartment for the three of them. What he should have done was just hire a widow to take care of his children. Maybe it was hard for him to do that, but that's what he should have done. And then they could have all lived together and they wouldn't have been in foster homes. So yes, because my aunt put her in a foster home, one, not a foster home, in the summer, a boarding school that was supposed to be really nice. She got fleas or something there. I think the state came in, she had to testify. I mean, the children there had to testify. So my aunt was kind of like, not thinking real well. 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And so she, She always had friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2486.12,2492.72"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Those two people, who were those two people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2493.66,2495.72"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e These are my mom, showing you pictures of my mom. These are both","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2496.68,2499.14"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e of your mom, okay. They're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2499.14,2500.52"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e both of my mom, they're just two different pictures. She was very pretty. 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So that's the four of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2507.22,2517.9"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e So you came to Waterloo twice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2519.02,2520.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we moved here, we came once in the summer in 1954.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2521.6,2524.84"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Visiting your family. Okay. Yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2526.26,2528.04"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e and then in the winter, I don't know if it was that winter or the next winter, we came and there was a big snowstorm and we stayed at the Ledermann's And so I don't know if you wanna see all these pictures or you just wanna see the good pictures of my mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2528.04,2542.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, one said, do you have any pictures of the Jewish food festival that your mom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2543.68,2548.82"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't think anybody took any pictures of the Jewish Food Festival. Okay, so. It's just a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2549.06,2562.94"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e mom with people. Oh, okay. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2562.94,2566.16"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e this is my mom. This would have been just before we shortly before we moved here, maybe a year or so. And this is just that summer we moved in August. This would have been the summer before we moved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2566.16,2578.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, 1960.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2578.62,2580.08"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e It would have been 1960. And then my mother took me on a trip. This would have been probably 1973, 1972. That would have been 1972, 1973. We were on a boat. 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I didn't know if you wanted to see all the pictures. And there was one picture of my grandfather. My grandfather always lived, when my mother got married, there were very few apartments. So they moved into my grandfather's apartment. When they got their own place, my grandfather went and moved in with them. And then when they moved here, grandpa was going to stay in Chicago and then he decided he would move with us because his son was in California or Louisiana. I can't remember where he was at that time, but He ended up in California and then eventually in Louisiana. But so my grandfather had friends and relatives in Chicago. But what he did is he was 72 and he was working full time as a carpenter, but he decided to retire and move with us. And he set up the store at the Ben Franklin. So the last picture that my mother had taken is this one. I think we had a little artwork done on it, but that's the She's 90. She'll be 90 in this picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2614.7,2688.14"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Still looks vivacious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2689.84,2690.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah, she wasn't well. They talked her into a surgery, unfortunately. But actually, A couple years before that, my sister-in-law and brother took her to Europe. And so even though my brother didn't like to be a tourist, my sister-in-law would take my mother and they would go sightseeing. So this would have been, she would have been in her, probably her 80s and that. So I've got a few more pictures, but I think I've shown you enough. Any other questions that you'd like to ask?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2691.74,2727.64"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's see here. You've talked about your family and the school and that you really, you know, things went pretty well. You didn't have much anti-Semitism. You worked at the Ben Franklin store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2727.64,2750.18"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I did until we closed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2750.66,2752.94"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e And when did you close it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2753.2,2754.82"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e We closed it in 1993. So after that, things were harder for me. But, and then eventually I moved into my mother's house. But my children didn't have, they grew up here in small town, Iowa, compared to Chicago, and they were happy, and they would have liked to have moved out into the country because we went to visit somebody that had a house, but it was further out. We should move out there. They liked going to the country and small schools. And they had many friends, and they were just fine. And I switched them to another school. And they just did fine. They had friends, they made friends, and they did very well. So that was a good upbringing for them to be here. And it didn't matter that they were Jewish or not Jewish, especially when, because there weren't very many, there were less Jewish students in the synagogue when they were going to the synagogue, I had 11 students in my class, they had like four. But when they moved them to a smaller school, they were fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2755.08,2832.88"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have a bat mitzvah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2833.94,2835.26"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2835.98,2837.02"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e When- You didn't have a bar mitzvah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2839.46,2841.0"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I didn't. My sons were bar mitzvah, but I wasn't bat mitzvah. There was one girl in my class that was bat mitzvah in Chicago. Now, when I moved here, most of the girls were already bat mitzvahed. I think some of them were because they were starting to bat mitzvah the girls. But what happened is my brother refused to go to Hebrew school. They'd send him off and he wouldn't show up. They couldn't get him to go. He didn't want to be bar mitzvahed. So I think my mother just gave up. They weren't doing it. My cousins were either totally on the reform side, the boys were bar mitzvahed, like their sister wasn't. On the other side of the family, they had girls and then they send them to a Jewish parochial school, but they didn't bat mitzvah them because I didn't go to any of their bat mitzvahs. So I know they just weren't doing it as much then. And I guess because they sent the girls to a Jewish parochial school, they didn't think it was necessary. Now, the younger children, I think, they were younger than us, more of them were bat mitzvahed. And a lot of my cousins, some of my cousins were, but mostly it was the boys, some of the girls, too. Yeah, I remember one of my of my cousins, She wasn't bat mitzvahed, but her daughter was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2841.42,2927.3"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you said your mom was very active with Hadassah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2928.48,2931.42"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2932.8,2933.3"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember hearing about the Holocaust during your childhood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2934.18,2938.36"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but not a lot, not a lot of information about it. Not all the details, not all the, how gory. I mean, I heard, but I didn't hear a lot because in Skokie, a lot of the parents, they didn't want to tell their children that they had gone through the Holocaust, but I knew about it. And the rabbi that came when I was an older teenager, the one that was here left after about when I was 16. And the one that came had been in the Holocaust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2940.78,2974.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember his name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2975.22,2976.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Rabbi Matsner and his wife Lucia. And he came, not only that, but he came to our small school out in the country and spoke to the whole student body about his... I mean, he didn't tell them, I'm sure, everything, how horrid it was. But he talked to the school, the students out there, about that he was in the Holocaust because he lost all of his first family. And then he remarried someone. I he was from Germany. She was from Poland. So they must have maybe they were in the camps together and met afterwards or met through family, I don't know. She lost some family in the Holocaust too. So I didn't hear everything that went on, but I knew about it. And I remember going to, I think my parents probably read books and things and the movie came out with Paul Newman and about the exodus. It was called The Exodus. Now my parents read that book. I saw the movie. I was probably 12. So I knew about it. I just didn't know the things I... I think in my 70s, I've learned more about the Holocaust than I knew when I was younger. And a lot of it was from non-Jews who did some research. So it's very interesting. Because I think Jewish people found it hard to speak about it. Yeah, I think that was what it was some of it. I mean, they may have spoken about it, but they didn't speak about the gory details. And when I was out west, I heard somebody that was in the camps, talk about how horrible it was. And then-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=2976.78,3093.06"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e When you say out West, was that visiting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3093.58,3095.64"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e I was in Nevada and somebody that came, he lost his uncle and his cousin died. He said at the end, after they were liberated, he probably died because they gave him food that he couldn't tolerate. And he got this, you know, just he needed to be in a hospital. But then I was in Portland and I heard people speak twice. One of them, they had escaped before, so she wasn't in the concentration camps. And another lady said her parents, her mother was pregnant, and they escaped from the camps. She said, I'm the youngest Holocaust survivor because her parent, she was, her mother was pregnant then at the end, they escaped somehow they escaped. And at the end of just probably before the war ended or just about it when it ended.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3097.54,3149.84"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e So that was,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3150.28,3151.42"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't remember, I'd have to call Portland and find out, because I don't know. I don't remember any of these women's names, but they spoke about things. So I've heard that's at least four or five people speak. And there were some other immigrants here in Waterloo that were in the concentration camp. And I remember she always wore long sleeves to cover up the tattoo. Whereas I would have worn short sleeves to make sure everybody saw it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3154.08,3187.84"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember who that was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3188.04,3189.44"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Maiden, their name was Maiden. I can't remember their first name, but they had three children and one of them lives in Waterloo Henry Maiden lives in Waterloo his daughter. Aaron made page lives in Waterloo she has two children. And she's been","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3192.56,3213.24"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e very active in the synagogue. It was Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3213.24,3215.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, she's been active on some things. And, and her husband moved here to he runs the the art center. And so and I know them both. There they were this Aaron was in Sunday school with my son. There was a dumb waiter because the kitchen was downstairs and the big hall was upstairs. And I didn't know this, but the kids would get in there and write up and down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3216.34,3244.24"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that was at the synagogue?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3244.44,3245.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e At the synagogue. And I heard a lot of kids did that. But see, I was 13 when I came. I was past doing things like that. So I didn't know that the little kids thought that was fun and they did that. So I don't know, maybe I don't know if anybody caught them, but they knew they were doing, I think they probably figured it out that they were doing that when they'd have a break. So and my mother taught, oh, that's another thing. My mother taught Sunday school for a couple of years. I think she taught kindergarten or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3246.1,3274.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, you talked about you went to Hebrew school, your brother didn't. 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Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3279.44,3281.64"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e went to Sunday school, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3281.64,3283.22"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e When we moved here, My mother made us both go to Sunday school. So my brother went for like one year and he was confirmed and there were six children in his class, six students. They weren't children anymore. And then I was in two years later and there were 11 of us. So the community was growing and then years later it shrunk. Yeah. And the 80s, the late 80s is probably when it started shrinking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3283.44,3314.24"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, tell me now, you said in your 70s, you've learned more about the Holocaust, but what have been some of your thoughts and experiences about being Jewish in Iowa today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3315.06,3326.56"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I think that I'd have to say there's some mixing. I have friends and my friends are not Jewish. Owen's coming over this afternoon. I'm friendly with the Jewish people in the Jewish community. I've become friendly with somebody that moved here in 1996 and I didn't ever get to meet her or know her. So more friendly with her now. I like her really well. Naomi McCormick. She's a psychologist, retired, and she's an artist. Oh, we would have been great friends. She's an artist. Then another thing is my mother joined the print club and when she couldn't drive at night, I took her and I ended up going to the print club and being friendly with somebody in the print club. That's how I made one of my friends. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3330.48,3376.12"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e was the print club? I mean, I take","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3376.12,3377.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e it. It was just people in the in the community, not Jewish people. My mother is the only Jewish one. It was artists and people interested in art and interested in prints. And some of them were making some of them. And my mothers became very friendly with the young woman there, Margaret Whiting, who's an artist. And what was interesting is they'd gone to a thing and took a bus to Minneapolis for some art show, and they both had worked in the hospital. They'd both worked in labs in the hospital and they became fast friendly, even though Margaret's even younger than I am. So I got to know Margaret, became friendly with her. I think I got friends from my mother. My mother went to the synagogue and met Dina Bickley, who married, she's from South Africa, and she married somebody from Waterloo, Iowa, who would have been in the West High class that I would have gone to if I would have been there, she married him. And my mother says, you got to meet Dina. And we became friendly, Dina and I, same age, became friendly. So my mother was always friendly with younger people and I liked them. And I became friendly with some of them. And so, the people that I know and that I'm friendly with, they're not prejudiced against me. I've met some that are maybe very religious Christians, and they are not anti-Semitic. They'd like you to convert, but other than that, they're not. I just met all kinds of people. And nobody's shown outward anti-Semitism. There have been a couple of things, issues at the synagogue where somebody has called and made some, I think maybe some threatening things. But some of this is recent, and I think a lot of it is because of what's happening just in our country. There's so much things that are coming to the surface that wouldn't have come to the surface if other things weren't a problem. And the things-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3379.54,3508.64"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e People are gonna hear this and they're not gonna understand. Could you tell a little bit about when you say what's happening in the country, what you mean by that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3508.78,3517.66"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e I think a lot of groups are being funded and stimulated by outside forces like Black Lives Matter. And oh, there's another one, I can't remember the name, but they don't show their faces. And I heard that George Soros was funding some of these groups, and he's Jewish, so he should know better. And then now there's things going on in Israel with the fighting and the bombing, and people are taking sides, which I think we should just have one side. Let's stop this. We need to have peace. So I think that a lot of the things that are going on are being stimulated by outside forces, and that people wouldn't feel this way, if there weren't a third party causing the problems. So I think most of it is third party. I think that there's always, if you look at anything that's going on, wars, fights, personal, in personal relationships even, or city, community, state, your nationality, there's always somebody behind there causing problems, always. And this is why there's fighting and prejudice. I mean, a couple of years ago, it was people going after the Muslim people because some of the terrorists were Muslims. Well, that wasn't right. It wasn't right. These were innocent people, and they may not have even been Arab people. They could have been Muslims from the East. So I look at this as we have a difficult situation. Things are not right. And I'm looking at it from this perspective of things that I've been taught previously, that there's always somebody causing a problem. My husband came, he was from New York. His grandfather was a rabbi. He moved to Miami. He was influenced by some people that were Scientologists. He became a Scientologist. He came to Waterloo. I mean, people that are Jewish, stay Jewish. They're always, we're always Jewish, no matter what. And you don't convert to Scientology. So he influenced me. And one thing I learned through him is whenever there is a problem, there's a third party, no matter what. I mean, if a couple is fighting, you can be sure there's a relative or somebody or a friend that's on one side or the other, causing a problem. So when you have countries that aren't getting along, there's a third party coming in, another country, outside forces coming in and causing problems. So if you start looking at that and seeing what's going on, like Biden is, it's like he wants to start World War III. He didn't get it started in the Ukraine. He'd like to get it started with Israel. It's insane, it's insanity. War is always insanity. There's no reason ever for war, ever. And what I'm saying, people might not understand because they think you need to protect yourself. Yeah, you need to protect yourself. Somebody's coming over and they're going to kill you, you got to shoot them or whatever you need to do to protect yourself. But somebody's always starting it, just like they did in Germany. A lot of people didn't know, and I didn't know this till I was older, that they started killing Germans first. And then besides the Jews, they were killing Poles, Russians, and gypsies. I knew about the gypsies. I didn't, and then later I knew from some movies I watched about the Poles that were being, the Polish people that were being killed and sent into concentration camps. And then later about the Russians that were being captured and sent. But I didn't know that they started with Germans. They wanted to make the race pure. So if anybody was physically disabled or mentally disabled, the Germans wanted to eliminate those people. Now, I didn't know that until I was probably 50s, 60s, whatever. So people don't really know the history and they don't know what's causing the problems. So I think that people will be closer and more friendly and get along better if there isn't a reason for them to be fighting with each other. Wherever I've worked, the people that have been very religious look at me and don't look at me with hatred. I mean, every Once in a while I hear about somebody saying, my brother dated this woman and she told her mother, I'm dating this Jewish man. The Jews, don't you know the Jews killed Christ? Well, her mother's very uneducated, small-minded and she lived in Mexico. I think that the woman was originally from Mexico. But the daughter is educated, works with all kinds of people. And she's dating my brother. She's not having a problem with that he's Jewish. There was too big of an age discrepancy between them. So this is what I'm saying, there are people that say that, that still say the Jews killed Christ, and my answer to them was, gee, I didn't know I was 2000 years old. I thought I was only 76. So somebody's causing problems. There's always that. And if people are left alone, they're going to find a way to get along. 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Somebody said there's no perfection. But I wanted to know that I have a love of humanity and I love children. I didn't even know I liked children until I had my own and I fell in love with my children. I care a lot about children. So if you care about children, you care about people. And I meet people, I want them to know that wherever I meet them, I have fondness. I have a lot of fondness for people who have don't have a background like mine totally different and but that's okay. I enjoy the differences. I want people to know that I enjoy our differences. I've always grown up with an interest in people from different cultures and different backgrounds, different accents, different languages. I've always found it fascinating and interesting, and I've always been curious. I'm overly curious person. So I want people to know that I'm interested in them, very interested in them, and I want them to do well. And I want them to look at the world and know that there's hope for us. There's hope for humanity, a lot. And sometimes you just have to work a little harder at it. And you just have to, sometimes as angry as I get at things that have happened or things that people have done or at a particular person, I know that it's nonsense and there's no reason for it. And to work to get along with other people. And that the people that I lived with and grew up with, and some of them had their prejudices, even some in my own family. That's because they grew up with these beliefs and that doesn't make them correct. My mother didn't have prejudices against. We could have Black people, Oriental people, Hispanic people, whatever come to our home. My mother, we wouldn't have been prejudiced. We had somebody who married somebody that was German, and he was like 17, 18 and drafted into the SS as a translator. And that was pretty scary for him. And he was at our house. And I'm sure he had some difficulties with people that were so different from him, but his wife and my brother used to date. So people get mixed when you meet people and you get to know them, you see that they're good or bad, not because of their race or their ethnicity or their religion, but who they are. So you need to get to know people who they are, who they really are. And you will find there's good and there's bad. And you can, if you just keep with the idea that you could talk to people and show them the light and reason with them and get them to reason, you can make a difference and you can get people to get along. And I think people want to get along. And I think people have humanity and it's important to them and they want it for others. And there's people that have lived too close. They've lived where they've been given bad data, false information. And people need to find out for themselves what's true and what's false.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=3883.78,4107.779"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Good words for right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=4108.08,4109.56"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Right now, they need to look at that. They need to look at everybody who's fighting, and they need to see what these people are really like and who causes the problems. Look at our own government that's been causing problems ever since World War II. We've been in all kinds of countries causing problems because my father said, I remember this one, I was in Chicago and I was very young, maybe nine, 10. And he said, United Fruit, because he used to buy products from them, They started revolutions in South America. This, oh, so who did they get to do it? They had to pay mercenaries. The CIA was probably helping them. So the corruption goes deep. You look in your own country first, before you look at any other country and come to terms with that, before you criticize someone else. Do that. 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They were both bar mitzvahed. One of them didn't mind being bar mitzvahed, didn't mind coming to the synagogue, and we should have decorated the house more. I was always buying Hanukkah decorations. They were all over the house because my parents didn't do that. But I saw, we lived on a street, the street was lit with Christmas decorations. And my young son said to me, I said, well, those are Christian people that have those lights. He goes to me, when I grew up, can I be Christian? So this made me realize that he liked that pomp and ceremony. My other son is, he's not interested in religion at all. He liked some of the pomp and ceremony. It was fun. He didn't really want to have anything. He would have been happy not to have been bar mitzvahed. He wasn't given a choice. He's not following any particular religion, but he's extremely ethical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=4185.479,4245.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSusan Jellinger:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that Bernard Paul? Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968#t=4246.58,4248.92"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163686/file/297968/transcript/87296/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAdrian Nadler:\u003c/strong\u003e Bernard Paul. We call him Paul. He is one of our family. He's probably the most ethical person I know of my husband, my other son and me, not that my other son is an ethical. He is. But when they were growing up, he always, I think he looked at things differently. And so his humanity is different. He looked at people at the synagogue and uh-uh, that wasn't for him, not at all. Wasn't for him, But he has his own ethics in. And my other son is a Scientologist, and his ethics is in, especially since he's become a Scientologist. I mean, he always was ethical because just the way we brought them up, we didn't make them be religious. We didn't say you have to do these Jewish practices. We just did these things and they were allowed to make their own choices. So one of them became involved in Scientology, was influenced by my husband, and my other son was influenced by a friend that was a philosophy major, which kind of surprised me, but that's what he became interested in. So he has a set of ethics. It's just not a religious-based set of ethics. And I think that religion sometimes is there to teach you ethics. And some people just don't need to be taught ethics. They just have it. That's how they are. So Paul doesn't need religion to be ethical, and neither does Ben anymore either. But Ben is more involved than, and his wife is not Jewish, but she wasn't raised as a Christian, so she, anything they do at Christmas time is just for fun. And they light candles on Hanukkah. So it's just for the holidays or whatever. Whereas Paul is, okay, I met my friends, whatever they do is great, fine. Just not for me, I don't care for all this. So that's interesting. So I think people need to some people need more of a background in what's in righteousness. And some people just, I don't know if they're born that way, or they grow up that way, or they learn it from their parents, but we were pretty easy going with our children and letting them choose what they wanted. And they chose what they wanted. Yeah. 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