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Okay, we'll start the interview. This is Kathy. I have to say this for the panel. This is Kathy Harpster. I'm interviewing Erica Goldberg. It's Wednesday, April 24th, I think 22nd, April 22nd. I had my birthday on Monday. Oh. Happy birthday. Well, I am so happy. You don't know, huh? Yeah, I know how that is. Erica, can you tell me when and where you were born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2.24,31.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e I was born in Budapest, Hungary, on Hitler's birthday in 1938. April 27th. 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People could go to church as long as they didn't miss school or work or, you know, if you did it quietly. The only other time and the reason I left Hungary was I couldn't go to college and finished high school. And one of the reasons was that I was Jewish, and the other was that we were bourgeois, so-called bourgeois background. And my parents were factory workers or peasants. We have to take a, uh, a test after high school like you do for a PhD here in five subjects English, history, mathematics. And I forgot what? I graduated with honors. I had all A's and everything. And one year and I applied for university, and I was refused. And the reason was as to being Jewish and being Jewish background. And that's my last kind of revolution. So how did this London job? I had no choice. I signed a job. I went to technical high school and I was assigned a job in a textile factory, not even in the laboratory. And I was training with the technician. But first he had to work on the machines. 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Probably around five years old. It was Hungary was the last country to be taken completely over by Nazism and the transportation which is the last one. That's why we survive here. And so I think it started in 44. My mother told me that it was gradual. First, they took all the cars away like my parents had their own car. And so in a few months time, they just limited the Jews to take jobs away. And so we had to leave our apartment. And that's the first memory I have. Because the reason, and I tell this to my children when they don't listen to me, because I listen to my mother, and that's my memory. They were the first house that we had to go into was the Yellow Star house. And had there wasn't a ghetto then. Yet this was the beginning. So there were Gentiles and Jews living there. And there was a big yellow star outside the house. And one of the air raids, the Gentiles. And they had. And this kind of demonstrates why the Nazis could do what they did. The Hungarians were worse than the Germans, and I know the poles were worse too. I mean, they just really enjoyed giving it to the Jews anytime they could. And they said that they will not allow the Jews to sit in the shelter with me. So the air raid came, and this was a four story apartment house. Which would be five stories here, because in Europe, the first floor is not the first floor. Here you call the first floor as you walk in, it's your first floor. So for the first four weeks, because we had four storeys plus the ground floor and basement, and it was a big apartment house has a courtyard in the center, you know. So I had probably 20 apartments. And so anyhow, they said, we can't sit in the shelter. So there was an empty room, not a very large room. It wasn't reinforced. And that's where we went down with Encourage people into folding chairs. And there was a badge. And thank God my mother is very smart. She has this sort of library inside, but there was just one entryway to this room. Like here you came in, there was no way out. And so my at that point, my father was with us, too. And this is the last time that I remember seeing my father because he was taken to forced labor. And my grandmother, grandfather. So mother and dad right by the door. By the end, there is no door to enter. And I was all the way in the back of the room. There was an older lady who was telling the story. There were a couple of other kids my age, about five years old, and I just remembered, well, the house received the carpet bombing, which means several bombs within few seconds, one to the other and three bombs hit this apartment house and the first one took the first to fourth in 2013, 2000. And it's fallen into this room. Where is the room. Where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=449.77,649.77"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e you were?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=649.77,650.28"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Because the the other people next to it was the shelter. Nothing happened to them. They stayed alive. So mother felt the shaking of the house in the first one. Hit it and she called out to me right away so they could come here. And I was in the back of the room. And this is when I tell my kids, you know, I tell them to come here and do something and say, why? Why don't you leave me alone? So I didn't I didn't say anything. I just ran up to her and and and by the time I ran there, things were falling in. We had, um, brick and wooden falling on us, and only about 7 or 8 people came out. There were about between 40 and 50 people in this room. And our whole family and the five of us survived because my mother was smart enough to be by the door, and I was obedient enough to to run to her when she called me. And of course, the lady and the other kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=650.31,707.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e Were played by everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=707.99,709.91"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e And so this was my first memory, and also. My","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=710.6,716.42"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e last memory being with my father asked me, how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=716.42,720.44"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you. You were pretty young then. Did you understand?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=721.1,726.92"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, I remember that when I was, I became six. The the rule was that every Jew had to wear a yellow star six years or not. And so in April 20th 2 or 44, my grandmother saw the new star of my coat. And and I remember they made I was happy about it because my mother and grandmother made this kind of fun. And they said, oh, you know, you're six and then you can wear the star. so I didn't have any bad feelings about it. But then a few months later, there was another experience, and this first time I realized it was something bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=727.28,771.45"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you tell me about that experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=772.68,774.45"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Well, there was something in between. Okay. Later. Um, after this has that. I remember going to an other house, which was the ghetto, and there were only Jews in this house, and. And I was with my grandparents, and my mother was not with me, and my mother was taken away twice to be shipped out, but she escaped twice. And then she had false papers and she was in hiding. So and my father was taken to a forced labor. And actually he died in 1990. And so I was in my grandparents for the first time, And I remember one day the soldiers came in and they said, everybody come out from the apartments again. This was an apartment courtyard and about 4 or 5 storeys high. And I remember being lined up and in the courtyard and marched out in front of the house in the street. And I remember my grandmother going up to the SS, who was running about and talking to him. I'm sure she had bribed him with money or jewelry or something because we were lost. It took her, you know, a whole transport. And grandmother and I and my grandfather were back there. So again, I was saved because if they would have taken us, we would have been gassed. And then from there, my third memory and I don't have memories in between. And it's a kind of picture that stands out. And I don't know what happened. I don't know how many weeks And certainly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=774.6,875.27"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't know one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=875.3,876.71"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Or the other. But then from there, from this place, we were taken for a few days into a one bedroom apartment where there were about 50 or 60 people. You can imagine it, but it but it kind of lined up against each other. And the reason I remember it because one night I, we were in the hallway sitting down, and I hit my grandmother's head. I mean, her nose hit my head and her nose started bleeding. Oh, yeah, I remember that. And also, I remember people going to the bathroom all night long.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=877.28,911.42"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e In the room. Did they have to go in the room?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=911.81,913.88"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e No, there was a bed. This was a one bedroom apartment. It had a bathroom. So they had to walk. And then, you know, leaving them in the bedroom. And we were sitting in the hallway, just body to body kind of talk all night long. There was walking people coming and going to the bathroom And then when we were at this particular apartment, I remember one time that I was walking on the street with my grandmother, never asked us in every two blocks or so and so on. And I was holding onto my grandmother's arms, and I was holding him, and he just came up and hit my grandmother in her. He took her arm and he said, you know, don't cover your star, your dirty Jews, because partly her arm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=913.91,963.6"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e Was covering this time. So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=964.23,967.59"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, this is, you know, now that I look back, I understand it was antisemitism, but when you're five years old and these things are happening, you. As long as you are with your family, you don't really realize what goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=967.92,983.79"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it also sounds to me like your family tried to protect you from, you know, the reality from what everything meant to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=983.82,995.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e And then in between. There was one time when I was separated from my family and my mother asked a friend and a Christian woman to take me to a Red cross children's home. And this woman took me there, and I'm not quite sure if I stayed there overnight or not, but I remember it. Um, it was very dirty and I don't remember it was dirty, but the woman felt it was very dirty and the kids had lice in their hair. And so she felt that she didn't want to leave me there. And she knew my mother was hiding at that point, and she had her address. And I remember going to this apartment house in the evening and knocking at her door and ringing the bell, and she wouldn't she wouldn't open the door because she knew who was coming. So I started crying and then my mother heard me cry. She opened the door. And then, um, you probably heard about Wallenberg lately. He was in Hungary and mother had got us into by that time. He had set up the Red cross, the Swedish Red Cross Hall. And so mother had was able to get us into one of the Red cross homes. And so that's how we survived the end of the war. Um, we had SS guards were really paid off in the end. So my grandparents and my grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=995.63,1087.89"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e When you went to that house where your mother was, did you stay for a period of time or just see her again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1091.37,1097.85"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1098.27,1098.81"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e She must have told the woman where to take me, and I don't know where my grandparents went either. But then we were all together at the end again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1104.54,1113.31"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e So you were together with your grandparents also?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1113.4,1115.8"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And I can really ask my mother if you'd like to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1115.83,1121.65"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, if you want to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1124.02,1125.46"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e What happens if you want? It's up to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1125.85,1130.44"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, a lot of these questions. Um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1131.7,1137.16"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e These questions your husband worked on. Did you know that? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1143.94,1147.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Except I didn't see them. Oh, you didn't know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1149.13,1151.47"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Toward the end of it. Um, in what ways do you feel that the Shoah has shaped your life? To the question. Well, I love my. Father,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1154.2,1167.29"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e and and, um, we didn't know for sure for a while, you know, after the camps were liberated. Took sometimes a year or two to find that he was dead and he was alive. And and I remember taking his picture to bed with me for years and crying every night. And my mother knew, but she didn't tell me that she was dead. But, um, I think there was some people who came back from the concentration camp who were there. My father was a businessman. He wasn't a physical. He was then, and he was a heavy smoker. So these people had told my mother that he would give away the little food. You know, they would get one piece, a piece of bread and soup, and they had to work physical labor, which he wasn't used to exchange his bread for cigarettes. And then he it became with him all the time. He died just a few days before. The","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1167.29,1228.05"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e county fair. And so, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1228.05,1232.04"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it made him into a lonely person because. And after the war, my mother worked. And, um, also, unfortunately, my grandfather, I was very close to him, and he survived, but he had a nasty brain hemorrhage just a few months after the liberation. 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I remember crying a lot at elementary school. But then in high school, I kind of toughened up because people either stayed sensitive and keep on running forever or this can go on forever. It has slowly become stronger and stronger, but I feel it made me a lonely person and I'm depending on myself for them. I, I don't have many real close friendships. I feel different from other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1267.83,1308.98"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e But you feel you're. 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What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1311.62,1312.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e you went through as a child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1312.4,1314.38"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e And I guess living in America, when I first came here, I used to and I still get a little impatient and upset. So, you know, my kids tell me I'm dumb. I'm Korean ships and all that. And I feel that Americans are dumb and they make big fusses over little I'm. 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But then sometimes when I get upset over things like, you know, I feel bad when I say, well, but it's so hard, you know, get upset over these little things. 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I don't know how it can be any different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1369.41,1371.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e What kinds of things cause memories of the Shoah to surface for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1373.22,1379.91"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they didn't surface. I have these things that I had talked about. These are just pictures in my head. And I know why they. I mean, these must be the strongest experiences. The only one about my mother calling me, uh, she had talked about it, but the others, I just kind of remember them. Do you ever like the others? I don't remember, I guess they were just, you know, everyday living and these things kind of stood up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1381.2,1411.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I know when you were telling me that it was hard for you to remember. You know, how long a time period and stuff. I know, um, my mother had cancer and was sick and and died eight months ago. My family lives in New York, and for my father and sisters who were there every day to even after three years has passed, they are not aware of time. They can't remember when this happened and how long it was until that happened. It's all very blurry. They remember, like you specific instances, but not the whole time span. And maybe when people are going through something painful, maybe that's one of the ways they protect themselves, is to have things not go well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1412.5,1458.08"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Every day is not so painful. I mean, you know, whatever. Like you're going to die of impatience and presentation, you know? Um, so I guess the things that stand out are the unusual things when you're unusually happy or when you're unusually unhappy or something unusual happens. It's just like everyday life, you know, you forget what you did exactly a month ago. It's just you only remember the highs and lows, right? If you did something unusual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1458.11,1487.18"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you find that? There are times when something will happen in your life now, that will cause one of those memories to pop into your head? Like you said, when your kids don't listen to you. I used to. When","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1487.3,1499.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e they were younger, I would, you know, I would get angry at them. And also, there's another memory I have that is very weird. The Wallenberg Swedish Red cross house. Um, there wasn't any food for a while, and I was finding Emily was 22, and the mother sent me down to the director of the house to ask for some bread, and I remember him being shaved. He was sitting in an armchair and his father was shaving him. And so he gave me when he had somebody else gave me, I guess, a piece of bread that he said, you have to stay here and eat it. In front of me. I guess he was maybe trying to protect me so they would take it away from me. But I, I remember kind of it was a big piece of bread was nothing, you know, it was very coarse bread and nothing on it. And I didn't care too much. And so, uh, and also then right after the war, we were eating horse meat for weeks and weeks. There was no food. And mother used to go out and the horses would freeze to death. And the soldiers, I guess, would come in and the horses, and they just Let them lie in the street and people go out and get a knife and cut a piece off and then bring it home. And. And they had spices. And I remember the mother would make meatloaf and was very down to earth in good taste. So then my kids used to come home from school and they'd say, oh, there's nothing to eat. And I get real mad. I bet. And then I would say to them, tell me there's nothing else you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1499.78,1601.39"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Know. You know what that is? Oh. My stomach. I'm on a diet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1604.72,1609.28"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's I, I, you know, but other than that, I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1611.35,1618.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e Remember, you know, but but what you're saying to me is that one way that seems kind of constant, that causes things to surface for you is when you hear your kids complain about the state of their life now. Yeah, right. Which makes a lot of sense, right? Um, this question isn't on the thing, but it occurred to me, and I wanted to ask you, I've heard other people sort of off the cuff, other people who have been survivors comment about all the sudden interest in the interest that other people have now in the Holocaust and the Shoah. Do you have any feelings about that? You know, it almost seems to me like all of a sudden it's becoming chic to interview survivors. Yeah. And I wondered if. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1620.32,1673.22"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e I can understand it right away. You couldn't do it. And maybe I was thinking that some of the people surviving are older than. You know. I'm 43 now, and I was just 510, and people were older, and they'd be dying soon, and check in on those people and tell their story and they'll be dead. And then my children and my grandchildren. And it doesn't bother me in any way. I was kind of wondering, uh, I don't know about this world gathering in Jerusalem. Why this year? Because it's the 36th year. And I thought, well, two times 18 is 36 and 18 is fine. But I thought, why not in the 35th or 40th?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1673.58,1718.44"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e But, you know, it's, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1719.1,1723.84"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e It's the only thing that I mean, I had an interesting experience, um, as president of the symphony. I called the symphony convention and met Morton Gould a couple years ago, and he wrote the music for the Holocaust series. Oh. And so he was telling me that when they first approached him, They didn't want to do it. And. Then he was invited to see, I guess, the first they did kind of a trial first episode, because he kind of felt that it couldn't be really done the right way. And he just didn't want to be associated with it. But then he said when. He","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1724.35,1771.7"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e saw the first hour of it and he felt the strength, the intensity of it. 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He was an electrical engineer, so he worked hard. So he went. And at one time he did some extra work. And the guard says, no, I'll give you an extra loaf of bread for your work. And so he number two again. He told me he and his other man, he worked in the shop and each had 1 or 2 extra loaves of bread, and he goes around the 1 or 2:00 in the morning. And so they took it and they hid it. And then right after they came back from work later, this guard gave them the bread, came in with some other soldiers. And so Belonging and make some of his bread. And they beat up my stepfather and the. Other man. And what was happening? The guards were selling some of the. Food and supplies the family with questions for trying to make it look. Like it. The prisoners were stealing it, so they were fed up. They were set. Up. So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1780.13,1888.1"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1889.06,1891.37"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e But they could, uh, you know, mother and I could watch, and. We didn't cry or anything, but I just felt, you know, I cried so much for about. Um. You know, I was about 12 or 13. I cried for my father, so. I can think of a record another time. Once in a while, I find people. It's interesting. Yesterday I went out for lunch with my friend and she went to take me out for my birthday, and my birthday was Monday. But we went yesterday because I wanted to go up to the gallery and the galleries as well. So and so. She said something about, I don't know how you survived it. So I kind of told her if she had things and and I did get tears in my eyes, so I actually I had to stop talking to us. And. After a while, I think. I entirely. This is not painful, is it? To get depending on your mood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1893.59,1980.12"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there are some times when we're all more vulnerable to memories than other times, right? I guess maybe because it was. 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There was a lot for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=1993.12,2006.08"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we were liberated in 45, and I started school then. I was a year older, you see. So I school at six, but I was seven and. I finished school and I just grew up fairly normal. But, you know, without a family, really. My mother was married until I was 14 years old. So by then I was in a class by high schoolers. I went to school and there you take a street car and you get up early and just go on Saturday. Also. And I liked the music a lot, so I used to go every time to the concert and other kids my age, mostly I was pretty much alone and my stepfather was kind of quiet, and he he lost his wife, his son, and he he was quite rough physically because of his experiences. And so we weren't very close. And. So again, I was kind of alone, but I had friends and I wasn't alone, but I was lonely. Yeah. And then when the revolution started, like we heard the people leaving and I told my mother I wanted to stay and work in the factory forever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2007.43,2101.57"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e And you were 14. You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2101.87,2103.4"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e said no when she was married. When the revolution I was 18. And so I said, I want to leave and come to America. And so first she said, no, we'll wait for you. Things will get better and you'll change. And I said, no, I had a girlfriend who had relatives in America, and she was thinking about moving back together. And mother found that some friends of ours who went to a certain village in Sweden, some of the farmers were helping people across the border. So they finally agreed that we can leave. And so mother came with us on the train and we took a train out to the country. And, uh, people were quite helpful at this point. It was different than during the. Only a train stopped before it got to the station, so a lot of people had to get across the border to get up before the border town. And we did go to this farmer's home, and there were some other people there too, and we asked a certain amount of money per person. And the way we arranged it was her mother was the only one who came, who was gonna come. So everybody gave the money to her mother, and mother gave me a note that she wrote to me. She said, you know, you have taken us over to Austria. And I said, give me this paper. And then when he comes back and then she said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2103.4,2197.31"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e She's a smart lady, isn't she? 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And so finally, um, I remember kind of I was an older woman who wasn't feeling well, and I was walking with her and myself and people at the front were running. And so we all started running. We had a couple of experiences. Uh, one stands out while we were going through. We did go through a little village and there were patrols going around, and we had to hide in the cemetery. And then several times I would go and they were shooting up the flares to. The man told us that farmer didn't see his. Wife","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2201.66,2278.03"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e coming out until I got there. 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So then going back to this running business after your wife for a while and you didn't know where to work? Uh, just by pure accident. There was an Austrian border guard and some people surrounding and stuff, and and so we just went in and I remember everybody was so happy, and, uh, and then I cried and I kind of released and. Then we went into Vienna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2290.6,2319.46"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e And I had some friends. My mother had friends who had contact with them. 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And then my father had a twin brother who had a massive brain hemorrhage, and he was just 20 or 21. He was a street car. And he got off at the last year and a half and died. So I always say that I'm going to have a massive brain hemorrhage because my grandfather died that at work and my mother's side. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2331.18,2390.83"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_UU:\u003c/strong\u003e my uncle my father's side. 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So two people went in to Vienna to the highest and told them, please do something. But anyhow, the day before Christmas, two buses came to the campus. Just by word of mouth, the Jewish people came and said, we will be at the camp entrance tonight. So we got into these buses and they drove us into to me, and I waited a couple of hours on the bus while they got everybody's papers on the bus, and then. We drove to Salisbury. For some reason, I think we picked up some more people, and then from Salzburg to Frankfurt and then the American, because the planes couldn't land in Austria. Austria was full because I need to go in. And I remember having. A hard time. Uh, going through Germany on the bus. And it was very peaceful. It was winter time. It was, uh, you know, I guess Christmas Day. There was snow covering the pine trees at. This point. Um. So. And then they flew us directly to to new Jersey, to Camp Kilmer on board. And but I remember arriving in America, the first thing was I had to go to the bathroom real badly, and they would. And they wouldn't let me go yet to go in. They had a tent set up for the fingerprinted and photographed. I said, oh, can I go to the bathroom with. The fingerprint and photograph first. So, um, and I was at Camp Kilmer just, I guess, overnight. And then they took us into the highest building, which is in the Bronx. I don't even. Know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2399.5,2591.11"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eErika Goldberg:\u003c/strong\u003e They haven't built the whole building and the roads here and the apartment house. And I remember being with a woman. And her daughter was about the same age. The first day that we arrived, there were some young Orthodox Jews came in, and some of them were older, but they were looking for a European wife. And I remember this. There were two, two furriers. And this woman is the town's. Next $500 a month earlier, the down on their hand and she was in negotiations with the other guy and her and herself. No, no. For her daughter. Oh I see. And so, I don't know, whatever. I don't know their names. I don't know whatever happened, but I knew I wanted to go to college. And so I went to whoever interviewed me, after me. And at this point I spoke German better than English. I had a German, my mother had a German nursemaid. 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But anyhow, I remember him pointing to Columbus, Ohio, on the than that. And for all you know, and it didn't seem to reduce mass and didn't seem very far from here. He said, do you mind going there? And I said, no, I didn't have any. 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I didn't have any problems, I wasn't homesick, I used to write my letter the first. I still write her once a week, sometimes for ten days. But the first year I wrote her every day or every other say. I didn't see her for four years. And in 1960, in the summer of 1960, she wanted to see me. And she told me that the place she was able to get a passport to leave the country. She told Cummings that she would try to talk him into going back home. So they let her out to Austria, and then another day, and then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989#t=2955.27,3002.89"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163707/file/297989/transcript/87313/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKathy Harpster:\u003c/strong\u003e This place. And you hadn't seen her in all but four years? 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When I lived in Columbus, Ohio, they lived out in the suburbs and beautiful home, but they did travel a lot, and I had to ride to school. But once you came home, you were kind of stuck. And I didn't live on campus the last two years. For two years I lived in their home for two years, and then I came here to be a part of life and be able to go to lectures and shows and. Workshops. And I couldn't do that living out of my car. 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Why doesn't she come here? You know, it's terrible to say it isn't. It isn't terrible. First of all, she lived there all her life, and she has friends. And she had the cultural life and sense of freedom to get on the bus. And I said, I want a glass of water, please. And she opened her eyes. And of course, it isn't easy. 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