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The first 5 years when living in Des Moines were very rough with little community support, especially when compared to how the new Russian immigrants are treated."]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["MPEG-4"]}},{"label":{"en":["Keyword"]},"value":{"en":["Antisemitism","The Rosenberg Restaurant","June Daniels","JOINT (American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee)","Red Cross","Des Moines IA","Dachau - Germany","Immigration","Family History","Fedlenkink Displaced Persons Camp","Concentration amps","Allach Concentration Camp","Hotel Elliot","Szydlowiec - Poland","Family Life","Jewish Holidays","German","Refugees","Auschwitz Concentration Camp","Immigrants - Polish","Joseph Mengele","Education","Labor Camps","Rodomsko - Poland"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["TheirStory"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Linda shares how her early family life was very good in their small Polish town of Szydlowic, which was primarily Jewish. 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My name is Linda Fishman, and I was born in Poland and Shidlovyets, November the first nineteen twenty seven, and my similar name, was Libah Ringer Macher. Libah Rachael Ringer Machael. That's my original name. And,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=16.445,42.375"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e how many brothers' sisters? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=42.615,45.575"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e had we had seven children at home. I was the fifth of I was the youngest of five girls, and I had two little brothers. I would say they were between eight and ten. The last I remember them. And,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=45.575,63.205"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e what about your you live with your mother? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=64.144,67.045"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e I lived with my mother, my father, and the whole family. And we had a butcher shop for as long as I you know, remember, till the war, and we used to sell Well, we had a big butcher shop, and we used to sell meat to, mostly to, and mostly non kosher meat. I mean, we dealt with the Christian community. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=67.41,96.565"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e memories, what things end up in the fall in life, things that you remember about growing up? My","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=96.565,102.52"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e family life was, pretty good, you know, like in the in those years, we had, plenty of food. We, had a nice my mother was my mother, my father, they were very nice nice Jewish people, nice good people, and I had, the few years that I was lucky, you know, to have them, I was fortunate being, you know, in a small town in Poland. Oh, we had just, yeah, lots of Jewish friends. Yeah. We, because there was mostly we had about the population was small, like, ten thousand Jews, and maybe four, five thousand, non Jews. So we, we lived in a Jewish community. And it was kind of very happy because, I mean, everyone came to another. We","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=102.52,164.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e had lots of friends, lots of people, lots of relatives. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=164.54,168.195"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e mean, the immediate family, like my father had, five they were five brothers. And they had lots of family. My mother, I don't know how many they were, but at least seven, eight kids, so that we had a very big family. And In this staple, like we called it, we were pretty prominent, pretty much known to the community to the Jewish and to the non Jewish because like I said before, we had this butcher shop and everybody knew us. And lots of times, I mean, we had, over caution need to, so we really knew a lot of people. What","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=168.195,208.66"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e kind of school did you attend? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=208.66,211.54"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e went to our school, multiple college school. I mean, just a regular school. No, I didn't go to a parochial school. But mostly, my two brothers went because in Poland, at least in the town where I lived, most of the time, they educated in the Judaism, the boys, the boys were you know, really something to guilt, well, some of them, but I I was educated in Judaism too, but not as much as the boys. Yes, they did. Lots of Jewish customs. Well, I mean, there was no nothing else. I mean, we definitely ate caution. We did not drive on the sabotage. We didn't have cars or even my bicycle, we couldn't drive. And, the Sabate was very holy, and we would, like, Friday nights after sung down, then my father came back from school. We had a, you know, a big meal with the whole family, which was really beautiful. Saturday, the Sabate, which is the same thing afternoon. Our party would come home, and we had the same table all around, and he would tell us lots, you know, stories from the biblical times. And it was, a happy life, kind of, yeah, kind of happy. With whatever little, and we were not millionaires, we were not rich, but, we were a close family. So I would say it was, you know, a happy family. I mean, I don't want to jump from then to now, but I mean, now I'm very happy in the morning, but, I mean, I have a house and everything, but there's nobody there. I mean, because everybody's dead. So that's what I call, you know, happy and unhappy. But I'm sure that you'd like to go back to the, you know, to regroup the old days. So this was, you know, as far as my family, And it was from well, I used I remember that I used to help my father all the time in the butcher shop. And little things, you know, that you remember, I was, you know, very young, but he didn't have to ask me to help. I just went out and I helped. By Clint, I washed, it was not the modern facilities that we have here now. So you had to do lots of work, and he would always give me you know, the leftover, like Friday afternoon, the bones, or whatever, and people would come and buy this. And then I would get the money. For this, you know, because people didn't have very much money in those days to buy you know, meat. So they would buy the bones within me, and they would cook soups and things like this. But at least I got the money, and then I could run myself, whatever I wanted, like chocolate, which I still am. I have to admit it, a chocolate hole. So it was kind of nice, and I really loved my parents. I mean, I loved my father very, very much. And as this story will go on, you will see that, you know, I was really close to my father being the youngest of the five gills. He always kind, you know, liked me and, you know, broke me toys and things like that. So I mean, this is as much as well, I remember lots of more things, but, I mean, you know, you can't go on and tell you know, I have a little detail, but, I remember nineteen thirty nine, Well, I remember even before then people would come into our town, you know, like from Germany, the Jewish people, which they were you know, throwing out from Germany, and we tried to help him as much as we could, you know, give him some potatoes or a little food, whatever we could. I mean, in our house, you know, there were seven kids, there was plenty to, you know, to support our own family. That we tried to share, and they told us stories that they were throwing out, and, you know, but Hitler is doing and all this. But you know, still didn't hit home. And then shortly after, And I will never forget this, how the Germans come in, you know, and it stays in front of my eyes. And, I mean, everybody just we everybody had windows, window shadows, because in Europe, I don't know if you know the custom But when somebody died, they would take him and take him all over this town, you know, covered in something, but you had to carry them And then you had to shut the windows. Because for some reason, I mean, we have the custom reason here that you have to cover up the mirrors, cover up the windows. Why it is, I don't know, but that's, that's a custom. So I remember everybody shut the windows, and we sold those German coming. Now, mostly that I see him is on the motorcycles, you know, coming in. And right away, we knew there's gonna be, you know, problems, but we did not realize how much problems there's gonna be. So for while they did not bother us personally in, in this town, from what we heard that they are doing lots of damages, you know, like in the big cities, we heard that after eight days, they took words out. And they took over the whole, you know, whole poland, because I remember there was a radio in the city court house, and everybody, you know, we run, and they kind of put that, so the whole town could hear it. The news, because we didn't have radios. You know, we had electricity, but it was not that's good of, you know, with plaques and all this to plug, you know, to plug in everything. So, and even you look back from now, Well, it was old fashioned. Don't forget, it was, you know, in the thirties. So, you know, not to make you know, completely, you know, terrible. It was bad, but that, you know, if they let you live, you could live. Well, let's see now. So things got from bad divorce. What they tried to do the Germans is to take away the dignity from the Jewish people. You know, they but what I remember they did is taking the the only children from the Jewish people, from the, you know, high class from the rich people in my town. Yeah. And they you never heard from them again. And you could look and find, and they would say that, you know, they are maybe not the cities, or they maybe are in some camps, but I we never heard of them again. I mean, that's was the end of the children, the richest children. They would take men and just you never heard of them again. And this was still in, you know, like, about nineteen, thirty nine, nineteen forty, because thirty nine, they invaded Paul hunting, September first. I mean, at least our town. So this is, you know, what I remember. And I remember that, you know, like, the snow or the ice, you know, wintertime, that we would have to go out and chop the ice by, you know, by hand all the time. Just chop it with, you know, the whole streets with, shovels, little shovels, and we were, you know, running kind of freezing to death. And they I mean, they just found any think that you can think of, which is almost beyond belief that they, you know, could do to you. Although, when the story started, they took away our butcher shop. They said, well, you know, out, and that's it. So they give it to, to a guy of the Catholic faith from another town. And they just put them in an hour, butchers happened, to dig through us out, just plain and simple. Well, he had those seven kids. I mean, one of my my sister was married and had a little boy that we kind of had to support the help her too. And we didn't know what to my father didn't know what what to do, so he talked to this polish guy, and he just said, you do whatever you want, don't mix me in and anything. You know, I don't know nothing. Well, we started at the slaughter in the backyard and to try to sell the meat, you know, because we had lots of people that we knew, And it went down for a few months, and then somebody told on us. And we, children waited in the front to see if, the police isn't coming, or the Germans haven't coming. And we heard a rumor about Mengele, that he is very bad, and, and all this and this. And so, already just was in the beginning. Yeah. I was very fortunate to meet him in the beginning. So Anyway, there's one Sunday, we were staying outside, and, you know, people told us that that they heard that this guy, which is such a, I mean, you know, gentleman, is in town. In position, we seen him coming towards us, towards our house, and we run back to the backyard and started to my father. Mengele is coming. Mengele is coming. And he ran, my father escaped. He ran. And then I remember that I grabbed a piece of meat, and I was really young. And, and, you know, when you are in strain, you can even lift a car, they tell me. And just run with this piece of meat. And I was going to run with it to my sister because she lived in the back of our house in the backyard. We had, an apartment for her. And he was already at me with a gun, you know, streamlined, stop it, and I run, and how I escaped, how he didn't pull the trigger. I mean, it's, you know, because lots of people ask me about faith, and You know, that's that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=211.54,898.3"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e what it is. I mean, you know, it's in front of my eyes, and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=898.3,900.78"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e can't forget it till the day I die. Well, he didn't kill me, but and my father escaped, and he tore everything apart. I mean, we had a little dog, and he started to bark, and he killed it right away. And this was very the beginning of the four of Hori. So and I escaped to a house, and I was I remember I was sitting in this house, and this lady said, And I was just shaking like a leaf, you know, being scared to death, and somebody came in, and they said, well, they tore everything apart, but he is gone, and your father did escape. So then I went back, you know, to the house to see, you know, what's going what's going on. And, of course, we were very broken up and broken houses, and we were scared them to do anything anymore. And I remember my father was hardly at the home, because he was trying to hide out. Because we knew if he catches, and then, you know, that's gonna be the end of him. Well, my father did escape as long as he could, and we, you know, at home, tried to sell everything you know, lots of things that we had in the house just to, you know, my sisters would work. We did whatever we could to, you know, to try to survive. Well, that didn't end at this either, but at the time, they still had courts and lawyers. Now, my, well, okay, One day, it came out that all the Jews had to register. So, well, everybody, I mean, the whole town, they went to register. And we asked everybody, did you see, by any chance, mengele? Did you see mengele? New, no, no, there's just Polish people, they registering. Nothing, you know, just you registered the name and address and all this. Okay. So my father went and registered. Now this was this was already maybe quite quite a few months later. I think it was already forty, forty one. Yeah. It was forty one, and thought everything was forgotten. Well, this was not forgotten. That's when the death part, you know, came in. And mengele just came up from nowhere. And he said, I got you now to my father. My father was, you know, about five four, five five, you know, short man and swim, and he beat him over the head so terrible. I mean, he the, and I, this I, you know, could never forget. And they put them in, in this jail, but they had a small jail and, you know, in this town in Poland. And I remember him, you know, having, you know, those white wrecks over his head with old blood gudged over him And he looked out from this jail, because it was like, you know, there's iron bars, and you could talk out, and he said to me, you know, Lerala. If you don't get me out from here now, you never seen me again. I never seen him again. So the story went down, that they took him to a biggest city, which the name was Radom, and that's where he was, you know, in jail, and it was supposed to be the hearing. So they the lawyer, we took the best lawyer we could, and the lawyer said to my mother, you go And you tell that you've been you haven't seen him for a long time, and you have to support your children, and he didn't have anything to do with the British shop anymore for to few years, and that you supported the children this way. And, on a woman, they will be lenient. Well, that's what they advised, and that's what she said. So they didn't give them a heavy penalty. They gave my father like four to five years, and my mother maybe three years. So they both were away. So and I remember my mother going, to this biggest city with, you know, by all sorts of holes in bogging, you know, because this was the transportation in those days. And we, children, you know, went a little bit with as long as we could, you know, about a mile. And that's the last time I seen my mother, so they put my mother to jail, and then they had my father. So here, we were left having kids all on our own. Sex kids and my sister married and a little child, and her husband being unemployed. So it was just plain hell. But and I remember my little brother being sick had high for his fever, the younger one he was so to put little things. And I remember taking him home from the hospital and my, on my back. I carried him home from the hospital. And then one day, they came out that, you know, one for my house had to go work for two hours. Like, in own a forest or something to help out. So I said to my sisters, I seem to be the bravest. Why don't you let me go for to work? And you take care of the two little brother of the today, you know, the little boys. And so they said, okay. So I went, and that was already nineteen forty two. And I came there to this, camp, which is called Scarzysco. You know, in Poland? No. Okay. Before, I mean, they took us the instead of taking to two hours, They took us, like, to a courthouse. Okay, this was called a magistrath in Poland, and they had a whole bunch of young people, and pretty soon, they had all those SS Arantas, And they wouldn't let nobody get to us, to talk to us, or anything. Like, okay. We were already prisoners then. She, they connived us in to work for us, to go for two hours, and they took us on tracks and took us to Deskentos, Gargysco. And that's the last time I seen my hometown, the last time I seen my sisters, and I had never, you know, seen them, you know, again. And that's when, you know, hell, if it wasn't enough hell before hell started, you know, more and more. Like being in this camp, in this concentration camp, I my young cousin was there, beautiful handsome boy and he tried to escape, and right away, they shut and decide to gate. So, you know, they give you plenty of warnings that you cannot escape. Like, they hung, you know, three, four people, and they let them hang in the front right where we came in, or when we went out, They let them hang for days just to see if you escape, you see what's gonna happen to you. This is when the camp You know, this was just from the beginning. This was, like, Kim, that, we had to build it ourselves sort of, so we would have her to sleep like barracks. And now I work the whole time by ammunition, very, very hard. You know, you give a young teenager to work three machines, and we did get a good slice of bread and a bowl of soup in the scammed. But, you know, coming from home, good or bad, even that it was so bad, you were very limited to, you know, to wash yourself, or eat good food. And to be very honest, which is shortly after most of our most of the girls, they, you know, they lost their periods. You know, even now I'm suffering, you know, with my teeth, my gums, because we were malnutritioned. From, you know, like, from the beginning of forty two to forty five. And this was, you know, the best years actually of a young person's life. The way I can see it now, and I live through through my children. So it was, you know, really, really hell. Now, they think in the, like I said, if they would let you live, you could have, you could live through, you know, you could have survived. But I had so many friends from my hometown that, you know, my girlfriends, as they brought them, and they took them away to you know, other places. Every night, I mean, when we came home from work about, so when we came home, about maybe, we worked after twelve hours, so we can, you know, back to this camp. And we so we, you know, instead of going to sleep and letting us rest about three o'clock, three o'clock, four o'clock. Whenever they want to, they walk up. You have to go out. You have to be content. And by counting, you know, he would point you, you, you, you, and That's how they, you, you, you, you, you, means you go out to be killed. And I never forget where this father you know, he pointed to his father, and there was a seven year old boy. And and the boy said, I wanna go with my dad. You know, in German or in Yiddish. And he said, yeah, good. Well, he took the boy, the father killed a seven year old boy, just about a minute away from us. But I like to go back when, you know, I worked in one place, besides carrying the ammunition, putting up boxes, And it was very, very heavy. I mean, they would weigh, like, about two, you almost broke your back. And This was the beginning of forty of forty two. And I was so sick I couldn't do it anymore, and I said, well, if you want, and this was under a Polish guard. And I if you want to kill me, just kill me now. I can't do it anymore. That's it. And he called in on theirs. And by then, she said, you know, in Polish, oh my god, she has a tifos, she has tifos, because I had that, you know, picked it up from from home. It was an epidemic in my hometown. And so I remember I had, you know, beautiful black hair and braids, long braids, and and they wouldn't let nobody grow close to me or anything. And they took me You see, this was before the evacuation, before Auschwitz, before all those that we knew about, that that I knew about. And they took me by hosting Bogey to, to the town. You see, I was outskills, was the camp, but the town was called, they called it, a big city. It was a good side city in Poland. And they took me to this, and I had to sit in this buggy with my legs hanging down because there was a casket on it. And I looked in, the casket was open. It was a dead body. And the bricks, you know, when he drove, I felt that everything is gonna go out for my, you know, inside because it was such a shaky right, special when you have a hundred and four temperature, that four hundred and five. Who knows? I mean, I was very, very sick. And so they asked me, they said, little girl, do you have some relatives in this town? And I said, yeah, I have a rich uncle here. I did have a rich uncle. And he knew the stories about, you know, my mother that took away my mother and all this. So he came And he said, do anything for her, and I will pay. So I remember this doctor said, we have to shave her head. And I screamed, no. No. And when I woke up maybe eight, ten days later, I felt my head, and it was no hair. You know, this I remember. And so I remember my uncle's daughter, my cousin came to me. She said, Oh, my god. You went through, health for ten days. We never thought you were going to make it. But I did make it because people ask me about faith, and I just tell them the story And so, well, when I made it, I recuperated a little bit. And, oh, my uncle came to me, and he said, Why don't you come to my house, and you will recuperate a little? And I said, No, I'm afraid they killed, you know, my family. In, you know, my hometown, if I, you know, escaped. And I started to, to say to them, I want to go back to camp. I want to go back to camp. Why did I want to go back to camp? See, that's what I'm asking the question. So I went back to Kim. I had to walk two kilometers, you know, after typhoid fever, And I remember this guy, stand up. If you don't stand up, you know, I'm gonna kill you. And I then I croaked on my fourth, and he said, ah, well, we had to walk a few people, and I finally made it back to Kim. And that's like I said, was two kilometers Now, the reason I'm saying this story, why did I wanna go back to Kim? Why didn't I wanna go to my uncle? The next day, they killed everybody in the beds in, in the, in this hospital, and they evacuated the whole town. And my uncle perished, and I made his whole family. He's one daughter survived because she was in the camp, and that's how she please say was safe. So that's what I'm saying. Can people ask me about faith? Okay. And I remember when I got back to this camp, you know, when we had to be contacted again, and checked again. And I had a old scar of And, you know, my hair was sticking up like the boys used to wear, you know, and I remember the people pushed me in the back because we were standing in five. And they pushed me in the back because I looked so horrible that probably if he would have looked at me, the you know, taking me out to be killed. So this is a, you know, a memory And I was really too young to go back to work, but I did go back to work. You know, I had to go back to work. And I worked very, very, very hard, you know, day in, day out. And then when you got back to the so called sleeping Cortillas, you had those bed bugs, which they would bite you that you couldn't, you know, you couldn't hardly sleep. But still in this particular camp, directly, they did not have a guest chamber. Or Estafale, they didn't even, because they didn't like to save bullets on people. So they took them out. I remember my cousin, they took her out, and she screamed, and she yelled, and she knew that she was going to death, that her sister got so swollen, so big that towards that there's one German guy who was a older guy, a older fellow, and he kind of wanted to cleanse his soul or something. And he came to me, and he said, I know this is your cousin, but I'm gonna do a favor, and I'm gonna kill her because she is suffering so much. You see, he tried to, you know, excuse himself because he was, like, I don't know, seventy or sixty five or something like it, and he killed her. I don't think she, you know, she would not have survived. I don't think she would have survived. She was in very bad shape, but still was not his you know, think to kill her. So I remember lots and lots of terrible things that, you know, come to my mind. And lots of people ask me even now, you can still go around and smile or something like this. And you know what? I tell them, I tell them you smile to people and try to god. That's what I tell them. Well, annual working in this camp, you know, for day in and day out, and being, you know, content, and scared to death, and sort of malnutrition, and all this, you know, then they took us to another camp. We went to Chernstarkov, and this is, it's a good sized city in Poland. Well, the reason they moved me from one camp to one other is either they needed more people over there or something. But, okay, when I came to Chienstkhov, we only stayed there a few months just to make, you know, a long story short. And from there, that's when the worst hell began when from chance to have, they took us on those trains, you know, those cattle trains. And they evacuated us to Bergen Belton, and the way he was I'm a hell, because Americans didn't, didn't know, or whatever we don't know, they bumped the train tracks. We couldn't go any farther. And we stayed on the train track for two weeks. For the first few days, we had some, you know, piece of bread or something. Eight days, unbelievable, eight days, we did not eat at all. So how I survived? I don't know. We did not get anything to eat. They used to take us to a, a river, and then we would drink the water, then lots of them died. Well, they they cut us out because they never thought that they're gonna lose Germany, and then they would exchange us for other prisoners or something. Well, after the train trucks were, fixed, well, we arrived in Bergen Belton, I mean, days and days and days. Bergen Belton was hell on earth. I mean, there was un, un, un unbelievable. They told us that they, we came to a haven, they're gonna give us food, they're gonna give us everything. Well, little did we find out that they said the first thing you have to do is take a shower. We went into the showers. There was cold, I swear, they're running Ganas. The next room, we went in, they threw us clothes, like in stripes, striped clothes. They just threw it like to a dog, worse than to a dog. Some girls were sure. They got long gone some day. Unbelievable. Then they started to come and come, and it was cold, and it was terrible. The sleeping clothier was a little straw on the, on the floors, and we talked to one another. We were I mean, just just plain plain hell. I was very lucky in Berringbelton, not to be there too long. It came like a saint from heaven, the gentleman who I worked under in Germany. And I worked very hard. I always was a hard worker. And I said, your honor, what did you come here for? And he said, I need that thousand prisoners. And I, I begged him. I said, please take me out from here because there was this was death. I mean, being over there, I mean, people survived, I don't know how if I would have been any longer there, I was the, oh, I don't know, two, three months, something like this, luckily. And he did take me out. I never seen him again, but somehow they took us out And they took us to another camp where we worked on planes, booger. It was in Germany. It must have been a small little town or something. We were underground. We didn't, you know, we didn't see nothing. But they did. They came and flashed the planes, and then they that's how they took them out from there. But there were some French prisoners. And I think they were able to go home, and they would bring us a piece of bread, you know, to help. They were sorry for us. So that's we were over there. And I remember my cousin, she was sick. She had typhoid fever, and they did give us. We had some hot water that I made a little hot water and took a piece of bread and put it in and tried to nourish her. And she survived Tenga. This is my uncle that I talked about his daughter, and she lives now in Saint Louis. And she's lots of times, you know, thankful to me. She said, I saved her life. I hope I did. And, let's see then. From there, They evacuated us again, and we had to walk for day in and day out and day in and day out. And, I mean, whoever survived, survived, whoever died, and the way he died. And we finally arrived in Dachau. And in Dachau, they didn't have room for, So they took us close by, and it's named Allahach, which is about ten miles from Dachau. And they, they will be liberated. Wherein. On the last camp, we were not very long. We were only there maybe ten, twelve days, of fifteen, because the war was they told us that the war is getting near to a to an end. Very rumors we heard from one another. I don't know, maybe some people heard it from the underground or something, but I was very scared, you know, to escape or anything. Even Allah, when they started to cross shoot, I remember the, You know, this is gonna bring, you know, always brings tears to my eyes and the yankees coming. That was the happiest day of our life, but they said, go back, go in. You know, the best they could because In the last minute, you see, the Germans didn't give up till the last minute. They started, you know, to, to shoot at the, at American, and, customer Americans, and, and, you know, born another, I mean, one of us, to one another. We said, stay in. Don't go out because you can, you know, be killed in the last minute. So, and that Americans come in, they, you know, started to, to give us two of them, and you know, whatever they didn't have much with them. And of course, we didn't know, we followed anything we could, you know, we could get. And some of them did talk a little, you know, you did or Polish. And so they said, don't be afraid. Now you are. So this is my story the best I could tell you. Where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=900.78,2322.29"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e things take, you know, all the people out. How many people were there? Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2322.29,2326.29"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e you mean, and all that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2326.29,2327.67"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2327.81,2328.21"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e there were thousands of thousands of people, and lots of them will just be, be on help because they were so dried out because, you see the Americans, they started to, you know, they started to give us so much food, and little did they know that lots of people died from it. Because, you know, from so many years, Marl Nutris, and all of a sudden you start to eat, you know, like I weighed one hundred and fifty five tons. Not, you know, not very long after deliberation, because I was just like swollen, you know, because whatever I I I I was very lucky not to bust and die, but thousands die. And so then after a while, they started to quarantine us. And we had to be, you know, like, in a camp again. In a lot, still in a lot. We've been through doctors and cleaning up and, rushing to diets, not to give, you know, so much food. And then they took us to different camps, you know, like from there, I went to, felt a thing. And this was a camp, and they divided you with youth groups you know, the younger people and the older people, the boys separated y'all separated, you know, things like this. And direct cross would, you know, Zendesk packages. From what I hear now, that they used to Zendesk packages to recams too, but we never got them. I never remember one package, you know, in all the years that I was in the camp. So My cousin was still with me. Yes. We both survived, and I have another cousin, which is in Des Moines, Iowa, and she survived, and she wasn't all the kids with me. So what I have left is two cousins from the whole family. That, you know, survived us. Oh, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2328.21,2455.225"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e You took","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2455.225,2457.465"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e us Well, after the concentration camps, I met my husband, to be, and he was left all alone, and I was left all alone. And We just didn't know anything else. We got married. You know, we got married, the end of nineteen forty five. And he we both lived in I mean, we lived in Dachau for five years. We tried to get to the United States, but we had a hard time. Coming because we didn't have no relatives, and we had to wait for the quarter. Well, we got, some kind of stems that they would give us, and the joint I don't know if it was from Germany or it was from the United Jewish appeal, but they did, you know, help us out you know, so we could live. And then my daughter was born in nineteen forty nine. And then we had, you know, we had a little child, but shortly after, when my daughter was nine months old, we came to the United States in nineteen fifty, Right. Yeah. It took us a long time. I mean, you know, I had to start to talk about this because every time like I had we just had a rough time. I don't know because we were Jewish or something, but we had a rough time coming here. We were both young people and healthy people. And since then, you know, we worked very hard here in in Des Moines, Iowa, made a living paid our income tax and everything. But at the time, in nineteen forty between forty five and fifty, we had a rough time coming to you. So immediately,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2457.465,2562.17"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e yesterday, no, or by the time you got married, what we were feeling about what had happened to you and your family. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2562.31,2572.775"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e you know, you look around and you don't have anybody. You can we lift only to cut from a whole breath. You know, so we can have a bread to eat from. That's what's our we we like to live a day till after, you know, delivery you know, after everything is over, and then we didn't care. But after you lived through it, you still didn't like to commit suicide. You still like to go on. To be honest with you all through the years, I can see, you know, then you go, you know, I got married you know, most of us got married, their children are younger, but now I miss my family more and more, because I was busy, I was working, little kids to raise, But now you miss this family, you know, because my four sisters, my two brothers, they would be, you know, in the late sixties. My brothers would have been traveling the fifties. And will it have a nice family, but I crave for family all my life. It's it's really, I mean, a tragic, tragic, tragic story. That's what it is. Until the day we die this generation, I don't think there is any help for us, and I just hope and pray the second generation won't be too badly hurt. You know, because like my kids, never had a grandmother, never had a grandfather. And he was, you know, very hard. I mean, they don't have too much family. You know, they don't have any family. Oh, yeah. My kids know my story. I have a son, twenty two years old, and he's very emotional. He's a very nice, boy, and I told him the story. He's in presides now in New York. I mean, he's, Stack Broker, after going through NVoyu, and my other son is an actuary, statistical science, very prominent, and his medic and his three children. And my daughter is in Dayton, Ohio, and she is more or less, like, She likes our artistic work. I just talked to her this morning. So, you know, we tried to put out a nice generation. Yes. They are. They know. They know it's just like we couldn't speak out, and we can hear because, to be honest with you, nobody would listen to us. Because it was war time. The depression was maybe twenty years of, or ten years over. And the warbles over. And I'm just thinking about this lots of times that people just didn't and the younger generation now. They're much more They are really nice. They like to listen. They like to learn from previous problems. So something like this couldn't help me again. And so that's the reason I decided to tell my story. Lots of people don't wanna say it, don't wanna talk about it. I feel after I die, who's gonna talk about it? You know, there's not gonna be a life witness. The beings that I'm a little, but younger than some of our people, you know, when I go to a school and talk to them, and I tell them. I said, listen, I was your age. You know, when I couldn't go to school anymore, when they wouldn't let go use to school anymore. I did go to a few schools. Yeah. I was at, East High, and, And as you know, that the Hitler, I mean, the first thing he hated is black people. Of course, there was no black people, to kill. They had gypsies, beautiful gypsies. I mean, he killed them one by one. They didn't have no chance whatsoever. It, because they were dark. So, you know, and I told us those kids. I said, we have to stand up for human. For human rights. Because if you're black or white or you're blunt, I mean, what is the difference? But if he needs both are different, it's a special to Jewish I mean, you know, he's the Spice. I don't know why. I still don't know why. Left","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2572.775,2831.195"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e them and let me think in the united states. What was the determination for did you know that you would be coming the morning? How do they price you or things like you? Well,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2831.195,2841.48"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e they looked around and whoever needed, you know, a few people. They just you know, like my husband was an upholster. So we registered as an upholster, and they said that, okay, we can take, because he has a profession. So when we came, he had three days after we, my husband went to work. He, you know, and and we're speaking about my husband. He's disease that he, suffered, you know, from Auschwitz, which he suffered so much. Someday, I mean, I'm gonna write this story about him, because he never had a chance. He could not survive. He writing his, his forest, and he was only in his forest. He could not, go through this hell, what he went through. He just could not, function on this area. It was very, very hard on him. Well, okay. When we arrived here in the morning, somebody picked us up from the from the train, and they put us in. I remember in the hotel Elliott, which was like on Fort Flor in a room. Well, I don't want to complain too much about it, but, you know, we couldn't speak English. And, personally, maybe to other people, they were different, and we had a nine month old child. And I felt that we maybe should have gotten a little bit of treatment. That's the way I feel now. I mean, haven't seen anybody coming up to us, you know, talking, do you need something? You have a little, a baby or something? We couldn't cook in it, but I remember across the street, there was a restaurant, the Rosenberg, and he could speak English. My husband was so shy. He wouldn't go out, so he stayed with the baby. And I went down, and I talked to him in the edition. He gave me we did get a few dollars. And I went down, I bought, some eggs or breakfast or something. So after three days, I I don't know. I talked to somebody, and I talked to this guy, and I said, you know, nobody comes up. We don't know nothing. We are so strange here. We can't speak the language of anything. And this lady did come over. And they look for us for an apartment, and they found an apartment on the East thirteenth and the Moins Street. One of the world's places anybody can ever get, there was no basement. I had to wash the diapers by hand, and this guy wouldn't let me hang out the diaper on Sunday, he yelled at me. And after two weeks, okay, there was somebody, by the name, Daryl Levin. Now, he didn't have anything to do with, bringing us over or anything, but he helped my Okay. My husband got a job, seventy five cents an hour, which was okay. For after two weeks at Schmidt Henry's, they went on a strike. So they told my husband some people don't go a strike, you know, they beat you up, they hit you, because we didn't know what strike means. And he he would have gone in, you know, but they told us not to, well, that mister Levin may he rest in peace. Very nice guy. He helped my husband find a job, and he worked there for three years at Gables. But, before till we got an hour, I mean, they gave us an apartment. And like I said, this apartment was hell, hell on earth. And, well, did I did we deserve a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=2841.48,3057.005"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e little bit better? Maybe, but you cannot tell because the people get mad, and we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=3057.005,3061.0"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e didn't have anything from weekends here. So we just kept our mouth shut, and we wanted to go out from the apartment so bad that we put a bed on a bongle without seeing it. And it was it belonged to the, to the government. And we overpaid for it, but we got stuck with it. When we came in and there's bungalow, the ceiling fell down, everything needed for hell. And my husband, you know, worked, and we tried to improve it and fix it up a little, but anything we can do on our own. And in fifty one, A year later, my son was born. So he, I, I had two little kids. And I I'm telling to Thomas with the fierce few the first few months, few years was really very hard because no no language And then by then, they laid my husband off in fifty two or fifty three So like I said, am I met at the community? No, and yes. I mean, you know, because why am I met a little bit now? I'm not met exactly. It's just in a matter of speaking. I mean, my husband was when I just want to talk a minute about him, he was so punished when this concentration came, in the Auschwitz. He was in the worst from the wolves. I mean, he was, twice he had a rope on his neck, tried to hang him. Then they said, no, we want ten doctors or ten lawyers, you know, but he told me, and he his dreams were so terrible. They threw him out from bed. Lazatancy would hurt his head. Nobody would believe it. They think, you know, you make up stories. He's dead now, so what is the difference? I'm just telling you how it is. I mean, horrible, horrible nightmare. This man lived for years. And people, you know, it was hard for people to understand them. It was hard for me too. Because every time he said I was in concentration, he can I said, I was there too? But when I looked, whatever he suffered, you know, mine was comparably, you know, different. So there was consideration camps and concentration camps, and he's half a terrible, but coming here, and the way the people never accepted her. For years and years. They would say greenies. You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=3061.0,3211.595"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e know, they would take us to doctors, and we wouldn't have children. 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Or we had to stay for a bowl of soup by I would stay the whole day for a bowl of soup. So nobody would listen, and then we shut up and we didn't say nothing. We went our own way, We raise the children, the best we can, and we are very proud. And as the community knows, most of our kids are all doctors, lawyers, very educated kids, and everything we did on our own. And, you know, are we met now that when I see the Russians are coming, and I none of them comes hungry, none of them comes, you know, from bullets or calls, they probably suffer, but not like we did, and you put out everybody put out a carpet for them, which is nice. I'm glad that they are accepted and everything. But while we're doing so, you know, coming out from our concentration camp, you have to have a little pity for us. You know? And so I just you know, like Adele, she wants me to get it off my chest. I'm getting it off my chest. And she somebody will cover it up. Oh, it was a nice day. It was a things that we made it on our own. My husband said, boy, if I would have a tool, I can make my own couch, like my You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=3218.82,3328.905"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e know, whatever the worst thing they could find, they would give you, they'd give me a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=3328.905,3332.265"},{"id":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994/transcript/87318/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSPEAKER_0:\u003c/strong\u003e broken bed for my little girl. So am I met at the community at the older people? Yes. At the younger people? No. I think they're fantastic. They are, and I I'm proud to say it because I can see what you know, what the younger generation is doing. And they have pity, and they, you know, like, a June Daniel, she puts herself out, you know, god forbid if a concentration would be, why didn't people do it when when we were in the concentration camp? Why didn't they tie themselves up to three? To do anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ijhs.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1537/collection_resources/163712/file/297994#t=3332.265,3365.946"}]}]}]}